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Hunting. Angling. Public Lands. That's the meat of what BHA's Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring is about, and we cover the gamut. With guests that range from outdoor writers to backcountry hunters to legendary anglers, we seek to uncover the stories, the truths, the controversies, and the epic conversations that our public land heritage provides.
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The Reverend Hunter Podcast

Ron Schara Productions

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Outdoorsman and theologian Tony Jones sits down with fascinating people who find transcendence in their outdoors experiences. Hunters and anglers, hikers and kayakers, talk about how they connect to the divine, and to themselves, as they pursue their passions. The conversations are at turns poignant and humorous, illuminating and inspiring. If your spirituality is connected to the outdoors, this is the podcast for you.
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Arnemancy

Erik L. Arneson

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Explore esotericism, magic, and the occult with Reverend Erik. All of your favorite occultists, astrologers, magicians, and historians of esotericism sit down for casual and informative chats about the bizarre, unusual, and meaningful.
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The Floods of Justice Podcast, lead by Reverend Doctor Kevin Riggs and co-host Kevin Sage, looks at the issues of our day from a biblical perspective without the labels. (The FOJ Podcast is a proud member of The TN Holler Podcast Network.) Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/floodsofjustice/support
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Episode 191 with Jared Sullivan, former editor of Field and Stream and Men’s Journal, on his new book, Valley So Low, about the 2008 coal ash disaster near Kingston, Tennessee, its catastrophic aftermath on the health of those who cleaned it up, and holding our federal agencies accountable. In 2019, Tennessee native and former Field and Stream edit…
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This episode is repurposed from my first YouTube video. It is an exploration of the methods behind why divination works, featuring my friend Tres Henry. Note that this is not an episode that tries to convince skeptics that divination works—we just take that for granted! Tres Henry is a magician, software engineer, and tinkerer who has worked in the…
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Blaring headlines: “Battle lines hardening in dispute over Mobile ship channel deepening project” “No more federal mud dumping' — Standing room only at Baykeeper town hall” A newly deepened and widened shipping channel created by the US Army Corps of Engineers makes Mobile, Alabama, the second fastest growing port in the US – the amount of cargo ha…
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Sara Mastros is the author of Sorcery of Solomon, Orphic Hymns Grimoire, and The Big Book of Magical Incense. She teaches magic and witchcraft online and is currently working on even more incredible Solomonic pentacle material. She joins me to discuss many topics, including the Solomonic pentacles and the nature of initiation. Sara helps put the Ke…
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Utah files landmark lawsuit challenging federal control over most BLM land Yes, it is to retch over. Once again, the Utah legislature is coming for America’s public lands, this time by way of a lawsuit filed against the US government to lay claim to 18.5 million acres of public lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management. Utah has a new website …
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Welcome to the 6th season of the Arnemancy Podcast! It has been a delightful ride. We are kicking off this season with another meeting of the Confraternity of Prognosticators. This time, we are reviewing our forecast for the first half of 2024, carefully combing through headlines for each month, to see where we were right, where we were wrong, and …
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From ballot initiatives that mandate wolf-reintroduction or banning the hunting of mountain lions and bobcats, wildlife management decisions are increasingly being made by voters instead of biologists. It is called “ballot biology” and it is a result of some highly motivated anti-hunting and animal rights groups reaching out to a ballooning demogra…
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Join Hal and Florida archeologist Jeffrey Shanks for a lost tale of British Marines and Jamaican privateers, American maroons, Creek Indian warriors, rogue Choctaws, religious prophets, and the bloody and tenacious struggle for freedom. The Apalachicola National Forest in Florida’s Panhandle holds some of the most remote swampland wilderness in the…
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Tony sits down with Jake Hanson, former church camp director and now Director of Development at Pheasants Forever. They discuss being called to ministry and philanthropy, ministry burnout, deer hunting with grandpa, putting your heart and soul into your career, pheasants as a gateway drug to upland hunting, times of discernment, three dimensions of…
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Woniya Dawn Thibeault, winner of Alone: Frozen, author of Never Alone: A Solo Arctic Survival Journey In 2019, primitive skills instructor and master hide-tanner Woniya Dawn Thibeault was selected for the Alone Season Six challenge. She and nine other contestants were dropped off along the East Arm of the Great Slave Lake, in Canada’s Northwest Ter…
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Tony talks with Sam Shephard, associate professor of biology at Ave Maria University and lead author of "Recreational killing of wild animals can foster environmental stewardship," recently published in Nature Sustainability. Tony and Sam discuss being from the Isle of Skye, wandering barefoot around India, fishing with indigenous people in Guyana,…
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Tony sits down to share some news about the Reverend Hunter Podcast, give some shout-outs, and talk about the future of the podcast. He also talks about a tough summer, full of both joys and sorrows, and updates listeners on his book, GodOfWildPlaces.com. Be sure to tune in for this very special episode. Find Tony's new book at GodOfWildPlaces.com …
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The Wilderness Act was passed by Congress in 1964, and has protected over 109 million acres of American public lands (53% of them in Alaska) since then. But the idea was born in 1924, with the vision of none other than Aldo Leopold, who was then the Supervisor of the Carson National Forest, and had spent almost fifteen years working on and explorin…
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The bitter tide of privatizing public lands and waters is rising fast across America. Only the actions of quietly heroic citizens can stop it. Nobody who hunted and fished the Cutoff wanted to tell the world about it. The Cutoff is also known as Creslenn Lake, a twelve-mile stretch of what used to be the Trinity River (it was “cut off” by a long-ag…
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Jacob Budenz returns for a discussion of poetry, music, art, and how all of them intersect with witchcraft and magic. Jake shares some of their process, and discusses influences from a wide array of mystics and artists, including the anchoress Julian of Norwitch and artist Marjorie Kemp. This episode was a blast---we laughed a lot, and I am sure yo…
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Tony Jones, host of the Reverend Hunter podcast, and author of The God of Wild Places: Rediscovering the Divine in the Untamed Outdoors and eleven other books, outdoor writer, hunting mentor, guide in the Boundary Waters, father of three, hunter, fisherman, seeker. When Tony Jones was growing up, all he ever wanted was to know and preach the Gospel…
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Tony chats with Oregon wildlife biologist Ben Padilla about what drives wildlife populations, failing as a high school teacher, growing up on a seminary campus, the practice and attention that comes from hunting, the power of disturbance, bugs killing caribou, climate change, the beauty of evolution, the damage of dualism, the indigenous ways of em…
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Derek Hunter joins me in this episode to explore the rich and confusing world of literature in Elizabethan England! We talk about a number of very interesting characters, especially how they may relate to the question of the identity of William Shakespeare and the authorship of his plays. Derek is theauthor of 15 books—11 works of fiction, 4 nonfic…
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Michigander Mark Kenyon is the host of the Meateater podcast Wired to Hunt, and the author of the definitive book on the American public lands, That Wild Country. Mark is at work on another book about the future of American conservation, and the hunting and fishing that do not exist without it. He’s also hunting and fishing and gardening, raising o…
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Tony sits down with Evan Moffic, the "Carnivore Rabbi." They discuss Evan's journey into the carnivore lifestyle, plus antisemitism in America, political divisions, stomach issues, becoming keto, hunter-gatherers, a life full of extremes, the lion diet, cows' stomachs as filters, feeding our kids crap, eating more fat, poop, the Jewish aversion to …
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A conversation with Jonathon Gassett, Ph.D., former Commissioner of Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources, Southeastern Representative of the Wildlife Management Institute, National Conservation Leadership Institute and Patrick Berry, former Director of Vermont fish and Wildlife Department and CEO of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers “Th…
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Bishop Scott Rassbach joins me in this episode to discuss the Apostolic Johannite Church, the Friary Ordo Sacrae Flammae, and the AJC's annual Conclave, and all manner of mystical strangeness. Bishop Rassach has a Bachelor's degree in English and History from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, where he prepared on a thesis on Philip K. Dick and h…
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Tony talks with Jake Lindemann, founder of Chief Upland, a hunting gear and apparel company. They talk about being an entrepreneur at 16, Wisco bow bros, being born without a left hand, wearing jeans to thread a fishing hook, Chief and Buzz, fighting anxiety and imposter syndrome, spending less time in church and more time in the woods, an epiphany…
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20 Years of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers with Ben Long and Patrick Berry Ben Long is a founding board member of BHA, the author of the Hunter and Angler’s Guide to Raising Hell, and a lifelong hunter-conservationist of the old breed. Ben came to Rendezvous this year to meet with new BHA CEO Patrick Berry of Vermont and help chart a course for th…
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Alabama’s iconic Coosa River was recently named America’s fifth most endangered river. It’s vast watershed, all 280 miles of tributaries and lakes, begins in the mountains of north Georgia and flows south through the very heart of Alabama. The Coosa, like so many American rivers today, faces intense pollution from industrial-scale poultry productio…
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Tony sits down with Jan Dizard, retired professor of sociology at Amherst College and author of several books on hunting, including "Hunting: A Cultural History" (MIT Press, 2022). They discuss hunters at Amherst, non-utilitarian views of nature and animals, struggling R3 efforts, growing up in Duluth, hunting by two rivers, the spiritual attachmen…
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Tom Reed, of Harrison, Montana, is a founding board member of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and a true son of the Western plains and Rocky Mountain wilderness. Born in Colorado, Tom worked as a horse and mule packer and a small-town reporter in Wyoming, edited a bass fishing magazine in Arizona, spent years with Wyoming Fish and Game as writer an…
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In this episode, Dr. Nick Literski joins me to explore the topic of spiritual guidance. What does a spiritual guide do? Who should seek one out? Along the way, we dive into the latest findings on religious affiliations and behaviors, which suggest that many identify with being spiritual seekers outside traditional settings. In such a diverse spirit…
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In April of 2022, Libby Tobey, Hailey Thompson and Brooke Hess skied into Marsh Creek in Idaho’s Sawtooth Range, towing their kayaks and a sled full of camping gear. The goal: trace the route of anadromous fish from the source of the Salmon River to the Pacific Ocean and advocate removing the four dams on the Lower Snake River that block that migra…
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Representative Ryan Zinke (R-MT) and Representative Gabe Vasquez (D-NM) are co-sponsoring The ‘Public Lands in Public Hands Act” which would ban the sale or transfer of most public lands managed by the Department of the Interior or the Department of Agriculture (which includes the vast majority of federal public lands – Bureau of Land Management is…
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Tony talks with Jerusalem Greer, author of "At Home in this Life," and executive director of Procter Camp and Conference Center. Topics include living on the Darby Plains, rewilding projects, something not clicking in the city, Phyllis Tickle, needing to get to the land, a theology of place, being an early mommy blogger, staring at our spiritual be…
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Jim Heffelfinger, Arizona Game and Fish Wildlife Science Co-ordinator, Chairman of the Mule Deer Working Group, wildlife conservation professional, author of Deer of the Southwest. Coming at you live from the 2024 Mule Deer Expo in Salt Lake City, Hal catches up with one of America’s rockstars of wildlife conservation and research, Arizona’s Jim He…
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Rejoice, lovely listeners! In this episode, I am joined by Dr. Mat Dragonstone, astrologer, Tarot reader, astro-mage, all round nice guy. This is part two of our discussion on Agrippa, and you should definitely listen to part one on Mat's podcast before listening to this one. Our discussion begins with a conversation about two logical fallacies: th…
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Tony sits down at PheasantFest in Sioux Falls to talk with Tim Brown, the "Bearded Uplander." Topics include having an angry gall bladder, hunting in a blizzard, released pheasants, shooting a turkey on the wing, the ethics of hunting, scoring a deer, not having a bird dog, thanking farmers with a 30-pack of Busch Light, hunting on Sundays, taking …
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Journalist Jimmy Tobias started out working on backcountry trails for the US Forest Service and Montana Conservation Corps. Since then, he has become one of America’s hardest-hitting investigative reporters specializing in public lands, conservation, and the outdoors. Tobias’ story about the link between ecosystem disruption and tick-borne illnesse…
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John Dailey is a retired Marine and the author of the forthcoming book, Tough, Rugged Bastards. He talks with Tony about his parents’ conversion, having a holy roller pastor dad, being scared of God, how the Marine Corps is somewhat cult-like, boot camp indoctrination, 9/11 in Darwin Australia, waiting for bad guys outside of Kandahar, a big truck …
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Jacob Budenz joins me to discuss Greco-Roman witchcraft, and in particular the influences of a number of classical texts have had upon modern witchcraft practices. We discuss "Idyll II" by Theocritus, Euripides' Medea, and Metamorphoses by Apueleius (aka The Golden Ass). Jacob is a queer author, multi-disciplinary performer, educator, and witch wit…
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Join Hal and BHA North American Board Member and CEO of the Orianne Society Dr. Chris Jenkins for a fascinating conversation about everything from public lands and local hunting and food to Dr. Jenkins' specialty: venomous snakes. An episode you don't want to miss!
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I was recently a guest on Mat Dragonstone's podcast to talk about Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa and his theories on divine light. My internet connection was doing horribly, though, so Mat had to do a lot of creative editing to get the episode to come out okay. He did an AMAZING job. Give it a listen, and then head over to his website to check out what…
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Fisher Neal is the "Hunting Actor," and the founder of Learn to Hunt New York. Fisher talks with Tony about hunting being foundational to his identity, growing up in a church that frowned upon clapping, moving to New Jersey, the use of crossbows, how it's morally superior to use the most effective weapon available, being the most prolific hunting m…
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The largest public lands conservation opportunity in our lifetime is at hand. The Bureau of Land Management is finalizing plans for the long-term management of an expanse of public lands in Alaska that is larger than the state of Ohio. There are 28 million acres at stake, an unfathomable wealth of wildlife, big game, fisheries, waterfowl, and the h…
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Tony sits down with upland hunting zealot and writer Mike Neiduski, and they discuss growing up in Worchester, Mass., writing poetry, stopping writing poetry, getting a German Wirehair Pointer, training dogs so that you can hunt year-round, letting it rip, divorce and dead dogs, growing up Catholic, writing about grief, becoming an entrepreneur, an…
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Would Mormonism even exist without magical treasure hunting? This is an amazing question and a strange topic, and I am really thrilled that I get to explore this topic with my guest in this episode, Dr. Nick Literski! Dr. Nick Literski is an Adjunct Senior Lecturer in Psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies, and a professional sp…
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Douglas Tallamy, Chair of the Department of Entomology and Wildlife Ecology, University of Delaware Any hunter, angler and/or student of the natural world is bound to be more than a little gobsmacked by the rate of development and growth that we see all around us: Bozeman, Atlanta, Boise, Moab, Salt Lake City, Huntsville, Austin, the Gulf Coast, Ph…
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Tony talks with Julia Schrenkler, subject of the Franchi film, "Old Dog / New Dog," about how her dog recruited her into hunting, post-Wegman confusion, how you can't just look at puppies, watching your dog bring you a pigeon for the first time, the eyelash rule, the tailgate of death, cultivating reverence, making your own mistakes, hunting out of…
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Heather Freeman returns to the podcast to share her newest podcast project: Magic in the United States. Heather is a Professor of Digital Media at the University of North Charlotte at Charlotte. Her new podcast covers centuries of history of magical practice and folk traditions in North America. Join us as she leads us on the journey of what it's l…
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Join Hal Herring and Mississippi State University environmental history professor and author of My Work is that of Conservation, An Environmental Biography of George Washington Carver Mark Hersey for a fantastic American conservation story that has never been more relevant than it is right now. If you finished seventh grade in an American public sc…
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