Hi. My name is Mike Maeshiro. I'm a gay, deconstructed former Christian minister. I wanted a place where I wasn't teaching and more inviting my audience on the journey with me in a candid and exploratory way. So I started this podcast. I hope my journey is helpful for you. With curiosity and a critical mind, let's dive in. Music by Alex_MakeMusic
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Church scandals, conmen, cults and charlatans. Deconversion "Therapy" Podcast is your place to laugh about shady televangelists to Christian rock concerts where no one is allowed to dance.
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#WeNeedToTalk is hosted by singer and activist Malynda Hale. Leading with the motto that everything begins with a conversation, #WeNeedToTalk is centered around heartfelt one on one conversations, with an emphasis on social justice, politics, religion, society, and culture. Listeners will enjoy meaningful discussions with Malynda and a variety of special guests.
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In The Refined Collective podcast, host and author of Sexless in the City, Kat Harris creates a safe space to have honest conversations around faith, sexuality, relationships, politics, identity, Christian culture, deconstruction, and more. *What does the Bible really say about sex? *How does our faith impact our politics? *Is Christianity at odds with science? *Is the Bible still relevant? From purity culture, to deconstruction, dating apps, and LGTBQ+ issues—there’s no topic that’s off the ...
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Season 4: Episode 41 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews Jenai Auman, Author of Othered. Everything Numa Queer and Affirming Writer'…
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Authors: Matthias Roberts
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Season 4: Episode 40 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews Matthias Roberts, Author of Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms and Holy Runaways: Rediscovering Faith after Being Bur…
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Season 4: Episode 39 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews Brit Barron, Author of Do You Still Talk to Grandma? When the Problematic People in Our Lives Are the Ones We Love. …
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Authors: April Ajoy
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Season 4: Episode 38 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews April Ajoy, Author of Star-Spangled Jesus. Everything Numa Queer and Affirming W…
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From Purity Culture to Gym Selfies
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Season 4: Episode 37 Lately Mike has been sharing more gym selfies and body photos. In this episode, he shares his journey from purity culture to gym selfies. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay - Substack
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Labels and Why We Need Them: Journal Entry #4
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Season 4: Episode 36 Journal Entries: Reflections Around Politics. It's an election year and that means some crazy stuff is about to happen! This series will show up, as needed, to pull apart, poke at, and examine political adjacent happenings. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay - Substack…
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Sex Talk with Queer Kids
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Season 4: Episode 35 How do you talk to your kids about sex when they're queer? In this episode, Mike explores the possiblity of open and honest conversations. Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 34 In this episode, Mike shares about his visit to the most toxic church he's ever experienced. Everything Numa
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Surviving Spiritual Abuse with Tyler Williamson: Part 2
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Season 4: Episode 33 In this episode, Mike brings back the guest from the most popular episode in 2023. Tyler Williamson shares more specific information and details about the spiritual abuse he endured while working in multiple ministries. This is part 2 of a 2 part interview. Everything Numa…
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Surviving Spiritual Abuse with Tyler Williamson: Part 1
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Season 4: Episode 32 In this episode, Mike brings back the guest from the most popular episode in 2023. Tyler Williamson shares more specific information and details about the spiritual abuse he endured while working in multiple ministries. This is part 1 of a 2 part interview. Everything Numa…
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Ex-Gay, Side B Nonsense
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Season 4: Episode 31 Mike confronts the toxicity and harm created by ex-gay and side-b theology. Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 30 Jump in the back seat and listen in as Mike and his friend, Mica record a candid and very real conversation. Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 29 In this follow-up to the series Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents, Mike talks about his most recent visit with his parents and if the book changed how he experiences them. Everything Numa
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Evangelical Straight White Men in Leadership
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Season 4: Episode 28 In this episode Mike interviews Sarah Heath and Keri Ladouceur—women who have been in evangelical leadership—regarding their experiences and perspectives navigating straight white men in those same spaces. Everything Numa Sarah Heath: Instagram Keri Ladouceur: Instagram…
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Will the Most Violent Win?: Journal Entry #3
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Season 4: Episode 27 Journal Entries: Reflections Around Politics. It's an election year and that means some crazy stuff is about to happen! This series will show up, as needed, to pull apart, poke at, and examine political adjacent happenings. Everything Numa…
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Coming Out in a Straight Marriage: Nate's POV
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Season 4: Episode 26 In this extension of the previous episode, Mike interviews Nate, Mya's straight husband who has walked alongside Mya in her sexual orientation discovery and coming out within their straight marriage. The Rainbow Room
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Coming Out in a Straight Marriage: Mya's POV
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Season 4: Episode 25 In this episode, Mike interviews his friend Mya who is navigating her sexual orientation discovery and coming out within a straight marriage. The Rainbow Room
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Fireworks with Mike Maeshiro
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PRIDE is over. But that doesn't mean we're done listening to people who survived evangelicalism and are now thriving as out LGBT people. Listen in on Karen's conversation with Mike Maeshiro, a former instructor at Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry and his journey to being an out gay man. Find out more about him at https://www.mikemaeshiro.com/…
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Emotionally Immature Parents: Chapters 9 and 10
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Season 4: Episode 24 In this series Mike shares his process as he reads the most suggested book to him by his followers: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents. Today's episode covers insights from chapters 9 and 10. Everything Numa…
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PRIDE with Jennifer Knapp, Part 2
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Sorry about the technical delay. I promise, it's worth it! Here is the rest of the conversation with LGBT advocate, Jennifer Knapp. Find her at JenniferKnapp.com. Keep in Touch or support us with our free and paid versions of our newsletter. Episode tithes and offerings can be dropped here. ❤️ Please Rate and Review. It means so much! Thank you. We…
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Emotionally Immature Parents: Chapter 8
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Season 4: Episode 23 In this series Mike shares his process as he reads the most suggested book to him by his followers: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents. Today's episode covers insights from chapters 7 and 8.
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PRIDE with Jennifer Knapp, Part 1
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What an amazing conversation Karen had with Jennifer Knapp. Once the star of Christian music, she now finds her place in LGBT advocacy. Watch for the second part tomorrow, and the YouTube on Sunday! Her new re-release of KANSAS is out now. You've got to check it out. Keep in Touch or support us with our free and paid versions of our newsletter. Epi…
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Emotionally Immature Parents: Internalizer vs Externalizer
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Season 4: Episode 22 In this series Mike shares his process as he reads the most suggested book to him by his followers: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents. Today's episode covers insights from chapter 6. Everything Numa
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PRIDE with April Ajoy and Beecher
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It's the second week of PRIDE and we've got your 2nd favorite redhead--April Ajoy--and her non-binary spouse Beecher. We hear their story from Christian fundamentalists to Beecher coming to terms with being non-binary--all while April realizes she is bi-sexual. And their marriage works! Caution little ears (why are you here anyway?), we discuss sex…
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Emotionally Immature Parents: Daddy Issues
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Season 4: Episode 21 In this series Mike shares his process as he reads the most suggested book to him by his followers: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents. Today's episode covers insights from chapters 3, 4 and 5. Everything Numa…
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Celebrate PRIDE with Flamy Grant
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We're celebrating our LGBT followers the whole month of June. Whether you are part of the community or an ally like myself, listening to people's voices is an act of resistance in a time like this. Drag Queen Flamy Grant hit national news when their song "Good Day" surged to the top of the Christian music charts. We hear how they grew up and what i…
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Emotionally Immature Parents: Chapter Two
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Season 4: Episode 20 In this series Mike shares his process as he reads the most suggested book to him by his followers: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents. Today's episode covers insights from Chapter Two. Everything Numa
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We're back. Just in time for PRIDE. Mystery guests will be revealed soon! And we'll also be on YouTube (episodes released here first then YouTube a few days later). https://www.youtube.com/@deconversiontherapyVon deconversiontherapy
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Emotionally Immature Parents: Chapter One
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Season 4: Episode 19 In this series Mike shares his process as he reads the most suggested book to him by his followers: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents. Today's episode covers insights from the Introduction and Chapter One. Everything Numa…
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Stories that Represent: Boy Erased
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Season 4: Episode 18 Movies and shows were a significant part of Mike's coming out journey. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay
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Stories that Represent: Call Me by Your Name
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Season 4: Episode 17 Movies and shows were a significant part of Mike's coming out journey. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay
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Stories that Represent: Little Fires Everywhere
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Season 4: Episode 16 Movies and shows were a significant part of Mike's coming out journey. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay
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Stories that Represent: The Happiest Season
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Season 4: Episode 15 Movies and shows were a significant part of Mike's coming out journey. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay
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Stories that Represent: Buffy The Vampire Slayer
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Season 4: Episode 14 Movies and shows were a significant part of Mike's coming out journey. In this episode, Mike talks about the impact of powerful women in shows he watched as a kid. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay - Substack
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Stories that Represent: Rocketman
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Season 4: Episode 13 Movies and shows were a significant part of Mike's coming out journey. In this episode, Mike shares the impact of the real life stories of Elton John and Freddie Mercury. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay - Substack…
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U2: The Best Christian-ish Band
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Bonnie brings you ANGLES the story behind the great band that never sounded like they sprung from church. Hear how they almost never were, and how we all knew someone like Bono in youth group. Keep in Touch or support us with our free and paid versions of our newsletter. Episode tithes and offerings can be dropped here. ❤️ Please Rate and Review. I…
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Stories that Represent: Introduction
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Season 4: Episode 12 Movies and shows were a significant part of Mike's coming out journey. In this series, Mike will talk about some of those stories and how and why they impacted him the way they did. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay - Substack…
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The Annual Ask Us Anything Episode
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Ok, maybe it'll be bi-annual, we're not sure yet. We've taken your questions, both goofy and cerebral and done our doggone best. We love to connect to you all, so hope you enjoy it. Go check out the newly released exvangelical books! Keep in Touch with our Free newsletter. Episode tithes and offerings can be dropped here. ❤️ Please Rate and Review.…
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Exiting the CCM World: Derek Webb
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Season 4: Episode 11 In this episode, Mike interviews Musician, Derek Webb. Derek began his career in the 1990's as part of the Contemporary Christian Music band, Caedmon's Call. After 10 years in that world, he stepped out to follow his own way and to take the risk to speak and sing his truth. He continues to pursue authenticity in his music today…
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Lettersode: Junk and Dinos
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It doesn't matter if you're an evangelical Christian, Catholic, Agnostic, deconstructing Christian, atheist, exChristian, Jewish, Muslim or hundreds of other beliefs and labels; we are ready to laugh at you. Send us more stories in our links below. Go check out the newly released exvangelical books! Keep in Touch with our Free newsletter. Episode t…
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Racism in the Algorithm: Journal Entry #2
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Season 4: Episode 10 Journal Entries: Reflections Around Politics. It's an election year and that means some crazy stuff is about to happen! This series will show up, as needed, to pull apart, poke at, and examine political adjacent happenings. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay - Substack…
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Church Bulletin: Cults and Comedy Clubs
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If you want to know more about Voices and Faces, check out the website and contact Karen. Go check out the newly released exvangelical books! Keep in Touch with our Free newsletter. Episode tithes and offerings can be dropped here. ❤️ Please Rate and Review. It means so much! Thank you. Book and other recs here. We have a P.O. Box! Deconversion The…
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Season 4: Episode 9 In this episode, Mika Perrin, Mike's sister and the host of Numa's Decunstruction Group, Ashes, joins Mike to discuss what it means to deconstruct Jesus and to share some of their own processes and pain around this topic. Everything Numa Ashes Deconstruction Group Ashes Book Club A…
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The Masturbation Taboo with Dr. Eric Sprankle
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This was a breakthrough moment for me, Karen. Turn your shame into the mundane. Get Dr. Sprankle’s book, DIY: The Wonderfully Weird History and Science of Masturbation, now! Keep in Touch with our Free newsletter. Episode tithes and offerings can be dropped here. ❤️ Please Rate and Review. It means so much! Thank you. Book and other recs here. We h…
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Trans Allyship: Journal Entry #1
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Season 4: Episode 8 Journal Entries: Reflections Around Politics. It's an election year and that means some crazy stuff is about to happen! This series will show up, as needed, to pull apart, poke at, and examine political adjacent happenings. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay - Substack…
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Christian Music Festivals and the Losers Who Went
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Night of Joy, Kingdom Bound, Fish Fest, Explo '72, Creation Festival, Cornerstone, Soulfest. So many. And so many acts from Larry Norman and Johnny Cash to Jars of Clay, Crystal Lewis, DeGarmo and Key, Jennifer Knapp... You all sent us hilarious and heartwarming stories. Such a fun episode to record. Don't forget to follow I Was A Teenage Fundament…
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The Real Lives of Gay Men: Colton Underwood
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Season 4: Episode 7 Mike wraps up this series with special guest, reality star, Colton Underwood (The Bachelor, Coming Out Colton). Get ready to learn, to be uncomfortable and to laugh your head off as these men talk about life, love, sex and being gay. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay - Substack Da…
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Lettersode: What Would Bonnie Do?
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Listen to I was a Teenage Fundamentalist, anywhere you listen to podcasts. It's another batch of your small "t" trauma letters. There is singing in this one, plus Muppet Keep in Touch with our Free newsletter. Episode tithes and offerings can be dropped here. ❤️ Please Rate and Review. It means so much! Thank you. Book and other recs here. We have …
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The Real Lives of Gay Men: Ben Cardenas
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Season 4: Episode 6 In this series, Mike hosts short conversations with gay men in order to hold space for their stories to be told; stories of being gay in a straight man’s world. Get ready to learn, to be uncomfortable and to laugh your head off as these men talk about life, love, sex and being gay. Everything Numa…
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Chunky Tennis Boob Cult
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Bonnie covers an Australian cult called Universal Medicine, also known as UniMed. We also ramble about a lot of things. But bottom line, be wary of doctors who brand themselves and suggest carrots. Keep in Touch with our Free newsletter. Episode tithes and offerings can be dropped here. ❤️ Please Rate and Review. It means so much! Thank you. Book a…
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