Research and perspectives on Corporate Leadership, Talent, Learning, and HR Technology from The Josh Bersin Company, the global research leader in the ever changing world of work. More than 3 million listeners worldwide.
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Redefining Work is a podcast exploring the new world of work. Each week I sit down with big thinkers and doers shaping what work looks like today - and tomorrow. The podcast spotlights mavericks, innovators, boundary-pushers, creators, builders, and convention crushers. It’s a conversational format bringing real insights, experience, and stories from a range of business leaders around the world.
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DriveThruHR is a captivating, easy-to-digest, and occasionally irreverent discourse that covers topics relevant to HR professionals. Our 30 minute shows include our guest and host(s) discussing a variety of topics including HR Technology, Recruiting, Talent Management, Leadership, Organizational Culture and Strategic HR. Hosted by @MikeVanDervort and @RobinSchooling. Running continuously since February 1, 2010. #DTHR
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Engage thinkers and doers philosophically. Profile the ones that move the world forward and decode how they think.
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Celebrating Labor Day! Lots To Be Happy About, Lots To Consider. E181
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In this podcast I discuss the ever-changing role of Labor in our economy, our companies, and our own personal lives. The word “labor” is really an old-fashioned idea, but we still have the US holiday, so I wanted to unpack what it now means. As you’ll learn Labor Day is a time to think about hiring, pay, development, and diversity as well as produc…
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Josh Bersin on the Next Evolution of HR Leadership
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On this episode of Redefining Work, I’m joined by Josh Bersin, global HR analyst and founder and CEO of The Josh Bersin Company. Josh dives into the transformation of the HR function from a transactional, administrative role to a more strategic, consultative powerhouse critical to business success. Tune in to discover how HR can lead the charge in …
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The Role Of Assessments In A World Of AI: Learning From SHL - E180
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In this WhatWorks podcast I interview Andy Bradshaw, the CEO of SHL. SHL is one of the world’s largest psychometric assessment vendors, bringing together psychology, skills assessment, and other forms of measurement to identify the capabilities, and potential of an individual at work. These highly scientific assessments are widely used for pre-hire…
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Leadership in the Age of AI: Insights from Lan Phan’s "Do This Daily"
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Today’s episode was a deep dive into leadership, habits, and community with none other than Lan Phan. Lan is the founder of Community of Seven and the author of the book, Do This Daily: Secrets to Finding Success, Happiness, and Purpose in Work and Life. Let’s break down some of the key insights from our conversation.…
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The HR Career Navigator & How To Evaluate HR Tech Vendors E179
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In this week’s podcast I describe the HR Career Navigator and the role of HR skills and capabilities in HR and business transformation. Then, as we approach HR Tech season, I give you my three steps to evaluating HR Tech vendors. Additional Information Introducing The HR Career Navigator Why Is It So Hard To Be A Chief HR Officer (CHRO)? Research S…
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🚨 Labor Tensions Are Heating Up Again! 🚨 Remember the "Hot Labor Summer" of 2023? Well, it's back in full force this summer of 2024! From coast to coast, we're seeing strikes, protests, and a resurgence in worker activism that’s impossible to ignore. 🌡️ 👷♂️ 17,000 AT&T Southeast workers are on strike, standing up against unfair labor practices. 📢 …
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Thai Randolph on Finding the Value in What Makes Us Human
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On this episode of Redefining Work, I’m joined by Thai Randolph, media executive, entrepreneur and co-founder at Hartbeat. Join us as we dive into how Thai navigates the tricky world of creating value in today’s fragmented media scene, her incredible story of raising one of the biggest private equity rounds as a Black woman CEO and how generative A…
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Revisit Your Learning Architecture In The Age of AI E178
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This week I recap the idea of a “Corporate Learning Architecture” and give you some of my historic perspectives on why this is so important in the age of AI. A Learning Architecture is a constrained approach to corporate L&D that gives employees a clear and memorable approach to learning, and also gives you the “freedom within a framework” to use A…
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🚨 Is the NLRB Facing Constitutional Challenges? 🚨 In the latest episode of Labor Relations Bites on DriveThruHR, we discuss the recent legal challenges filed by companies like Amazon, Trader Joe's, SpaceX, and Starbucks, questioning the constitutionality of the NLRB. 🏢⚖️ These cases could lead to significant changes, potentially impacting NLRB deci…
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How MetLife's Talent Marketplace Drives Skills, Energy, & ROI E177
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In this episode, Susan Podlogar, former CHRO at MetLife, talks with Kathi Enderes about the transformative impact of an AI-based talent marketplace (powered by Gloat). You’ll learn what a talent marketplace is, how to implement, and why these solutions are rapidly growing around the world. Podlogar explains how they implemented this solution and ho…
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"So HR Is Making You Miserable?" How HR Can Make Their Jobs Better. E176
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The NYT published an article explaining how hard it is to be an HR professional. “The job has become an exasperating ordeal. People hate us.” While many people don’t know this, HR is a complex, difficult, and highly strategic profession. And given that HR professionals are caught between leadership and employees, it can often be very frustrating. D…
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Here are a few quick bytes on developing news stories, including: The Office of Labor-Management Standards (OLMS) has announced it intends to explore the scope of split-income reporting on the Form LM-10 Employer Report, pursuant to section 203 of the Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act (LMRDA).Workers at Amazon’s only unionized warehouse…
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Should You Be Friends with Your Colleagues?
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Explore the complexities of friendships at work. Are they essential for job satisfaction, or do they pose professional risks? Discover insights and personal experiences from the latest episode of LinkedIn Presents: Redefining Work - The Riff with AJ Thomas, Q Hamirani, and Lars Schmidt. This exploration of workplace friendships was not just a discu…
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Battle Of The AI Bots, Rethink Talent Acquisition, Workforce Planning? E175
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In this conversation, I discuss three main topics: the battle in the enterprise chatbot space, the transformation of talent acquisition, and the new “sticky” state of the job market. How to make sense of enterprise AI Copilots? Workday and Salesforce team up, Apple Intelligence is coming, how do you make sense of it all? In talent acquisition, ther…
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The Future Of The Workforce Has Arrived, Can't You See It?
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In this podcast I summarize a series of high-level meetings I’ve had with HR leaders in the EU, where companies are very focused on preparing for tectonic shifts in employee expectations, skills, and work rules. While articles and podcasts continue to talk about “the future of work,” I believe that narrative is over. The industrial work model has e…
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DEI Attacked by SHRM, Civility In The Workplace, And The ROI of AI
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Today I broadcast again from Ireland, where I discuss why I disagree with SHRM’s position on DEI, how DEI is undermined and why it remains important, the unfortunate decline in civility in the American workplace, and how we afford the $2 Trillion investments in #AI. (Read our research report Elevating Equity to understand the real-world business ca…
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AI Eliminates Jobs At Intuit and UKG, But Not The Way You Thought
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In this podcast I discuss the recent layoffs at UKG and Intuit and how AI played a role quite different than we expected. In both cases the CEOs tell us that AI is the future and that they need large amounts of capital to invest in this new capability, thus they are “pre-replacing” human capital with technology. In addition to this, as I discuss, b…
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Unbossing: The Future of Work Without Middle Managers w/ Jesse Meschuk
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In this episode of DriveThruHR, we dive into the transformative movement of Unbossing, which has led to the elimination of one-third of middle management positions in 2023. Our guest, Jesse Meschuk, a seasoned human capital advisor and HR expert with over 20 years of experience, will share his insights on how Unbossing is reshaping workforces and t…
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WhatWorks: HR Transformation at Bon Secours Mercy Health
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This is the inaugural podcast in our new WhatWorks Series, focused on stories and case studies of the world’s most interesting and creative HR teams. In this podcast, Kathi Enderes, SVP and Global Analyst, interviews Allan Calonge, CHRO, and Levi Loverkamp, Chief Workforce Planning Officer, describe how Bon Secours Mercy Health’s systemic HR integr…
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Are You Ready For The Reinvention Of Learning & Development? It's Here!
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In this podcast I discuss the four huge transformations taking place in corporate learning & development, all driven by AI. Join me in the discussion here and you can learn more in The Josh Bersin Academy, where we just launched our AI in HR Course and two mobile-learning micro-courses on AI use cases and Generative AI best-practices. Outline: The …
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So You Want To Be A Chief HR Officer? Why It's Harder Than It Looks
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In this podcast I walk through a few of the findings from our CHRO Insights® research, explaining why the CHRO role has become more complex and difficult than ever. This podcast episode discusses the challenges, issues, drivers, success factors, and derailers of being a head of HR or CHRO. I share early insights from a massive research project that…
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Arist Pioneers AI-Driven Autonomous Learning In The Flow Of Work
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Arist, a fascinating new company in corporate learning, is reinventing how we develop, deliver, and consume content. And yes, these guys are bringing Autonomous Learning to companies today, in a very special format. In this podcast I interviewed Michael Ioffe, Ryan Laverty, and Maxine Anderson, the three founders. Not only is the technology fascina…
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Kim Scott on Bringing Radical Candor — and Respect — to Work
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On this episode of Redefining Work, I’m joined by Kim Scott, author of the classic, “Radical Candor: Be a Kickass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity.” People need to know that you care about them, but at the same time, you do them a disservice if you don’t help them grow. Listen in to learn how to give — and receive — radical candor to help everyone…
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Chatbot Architecture: MS Copilot, Joule, Galileo™, and The Future of L&D
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In this episode I explain what’s happening in the Chatbot or “Intelligent Agent” market as vendors produce Copilots and we start to figure out how they’ll work together. I discuss our own plans for Galileo and explain how SAP Joule is partnering with Microsoft to integrate these agents. It’s early days and vendors like ServiceNow, Workday, and othe…
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Labor Relatedly on DTHR with Peter List
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Michael VanDervort discusses labor relations issues of the day with guest Peter List of Labor Union News, including the recent merger/alliance between Amazon Labor Union and the TeamstersVon DriveThru HR
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A New, Transformed Role For The HR Business Partner
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In this podcast I describe the new, transformed role of HR Business Partner. This pivotal position, which was defined 25+ years ago as an “HR Generalist,” has now become pivotal to a company’s successful people strategy. If you want to learn more, check out our most popular course in the Josh Bersin Academy, the HR Consulting Masterclass, or call u…
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Navigating Nonlinear Careers (the Riff special episode)
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Welcome to the latest special Redefining Work episode of The Riff, co-hosted by Lars Schmidt, AJ Thomas, and Q Hamirani. In this lively discussion, they dive deep into the world of non-linear careers, including personal anecdotes from their own experience, offering valuable advice for those navigating their professional journeys.…
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Kandi Wiens on Helping People Build Burnout Immunity
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On this episode of Redefining Work, I’m joined by Kandi Wiens, University of Pennsylvania senior fellow and author of the new book “Burnout Immunity.” Find out how you can build resilience to burnout and learn to thrive at work.Von Lars Schmidt
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Navigating the Emotional Journey of Merger and Acquisition with Jonathan Bennett
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In this episode of DriveThruHR, we chat with Jonathan Bennett, an executive coach with a rich background in business and leadership. Jonathan shares his personal journey from leaving a high-level role at a large hospital to founding and growing a successful management consulting firm. After a decade of success, he made the bold move to sell his com…
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How To Globalize Quickly? Globalization Partners Explains The EOR Market.
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Globalization Partners (G-P), a company specializing in global employer of record services (EOR), discusses the complexities and opportunities in the global employment market. They emphasize the importance of compliance, automation, and the human touch in their approach. In this podcast I interview Nicole Sahin, Founder and CEO, and Nat Nataranjan,…
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Breaking the HR Mold: Vanesa Cotlar on Transforming HR and People Operations
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In this episode of the Redefining Work podcast, host Lars Schmidt sits down with Vanesa Cotlar, VP of People and Culture at PolicyMe, to explore the transformative changes in HR. Vanesa shares her journey from a solo HR professional to leading a dynamic team, discusses the evolution and increased visibility of the HR field, and offers insights on b…
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Citizenship At Work: Dealing With Politics Inside and Outside The Company
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Given this week’s political news, I wanted to share my thoughts on “Citizenship,” the way we as employees and individuals work together to help our company and our society make decisions the benefit everyone. We live in a world of shatteringly fast change, with two global wars, a rising sense of mistrust of political systems, and enormous changes t…
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Exploring Gen Z in the Workplace with Kat Walsh
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Join us on DriveThruHR as we chat with Kat Walsh of the Kat Walsh Group, a self-proclaimed "GenZologist." Kat's unique journey includes running a venture builder fund and working as a Chief Legacy Officer. She shares her insights on what makes Gen Z tick and how their work values have evolved post-pandemic. Kat explains what it means to be a GenZol…
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Canva’s Amy Schultz on Designing Better Recruitment Experiences
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On this episode of Redefining Work, I’m joined by Amy Schultz, global head of talent acquisition at Canva. We discuss Amy's career journey from LinkedIn to Canva, how Canva uses visual storytelling in its recruiting processes, and Amy's perspective on generative AI in recruiting.Von Lars Schmidt
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