EP06: Healthy Masculinity

FARSIGHT Chats

oin us on this episode of FARSIGHT Chats as we redefine masculinity with insights from masculinity thought leaders,Dr. Stephen Burrell, Daniel Castillo, Mark Greene, and Pheng Thao. Explore the challenges and breakthroughs in supporting men through moments of vulnerability. Listen in to learn more about dismantling the 'man box', breaking the mold of toxic masculinity and exploring a future rooted in compassion and accountability. The Key topics covered include:

• Toxic Masculinity vs. Healthy Masculinity: The emphasis on traits like dominance, control, and emotional suppression can lead to violence, both gender-based and societal. In contrast, the guests propose healthy masculinity, which promotes emotional connection, vulnerability, and accountability.
• Manbox Culture: Introduction to "Manbox culture," a term originating from Paul Kivel's research on the rigid rules of masculinity. These rules, such as suppressing emotions, being tough, and enforcing dominance, trap men in a box of expectations. Further discussion on how these norms harm men and those around them.
• Intersectionality and Identity: The conversation touches on how masculinity differs across various identities, including race, ethnicity, class, and geography. Pheng Thao and Daniel Castillo emphasize how different communities, especially marginalized ones, experience masculinity in distinct ways. For instance, Thao highlights how racism and stereotypes impact Southeast Asian men’s sense of masculinity.
• The Role of Accountability: A major focus of the discussion is on accountability—both personal and collective. The guests suggest that men need to practice accountability not only for their own behaviors but also in calling out harmful behaviors in others. This includes fostering safe spaces for men to discuss their vulnerabilities and build emotional connections, which they see as essential for dismantling harmful masculine norms.
• Cultural and Systemic Influences: The episode also explores how larger systems, such as patriarchy, racism, and capitalism, shape and enforce harmful forms of masculinity. Daniel Castillo discusses how systems like mass incarceration disrupt families, particularly in Black and Brown communities, reinforcing damaging masculine ideals.
• Healing and Transformation: The guests advocate for creating spaces where men can unlearn harmful norms and build healthier relationships with themselves and others. They stress that this process involves emotional labor, community support, and intentional practices aimed at transforming hearts and minds.

SHOW NOTES

00:00 Introduction to Farsight Chats

00:28 Today's Topic: Healthy Masculinity

01:53 Guest Introductions

05:16 Understanding Man Box Culture

08:11 Historical Context and Cultural Nuances

13:44 The Impact of Dominance-Based Masculinity

16:12 Transforming Masculinity: Emotional and Spiritual Work

30:07 Systemic Structures and Practices

36:32 Rebuilding Patriarchy: Intentional Acts and Accountability

38:08 Compassionate Accountability: Transforming Harm

40:03 The Importance of Male Community and Accountability

41:41 Listening to Women: Key Feedback for Men

42:56 The Impact of Manbox Culture on Men's Health

44:14 Creating Authentic Relationships Among Men

50:46 Navigating Power and Privilege in the Workplace

01:00:39 The Role of Data in Anti-Oppression Work

01:08:51 Parenting and Caregiving: Raising the Next Generation

01:14:06 Conclusion and Future Conversations

DATA & RESOURCES CITED:

DATA & RESOURCES CITED:

• Catalyst | Masculine Anxiety - An overlooked factor in men's reluctance to interrupt sexism https://www.catalyst.org/reports/masculine-anxiety-workplace/
• Global Health 50/50 | The Sex, Gender and Covid 19 Project https://globalhealth5050.org/the-sex-gender-and-covid-19-project/ & https://www.equimundo.org/resources/masculinities-and-covid-19-making-the-connections/
• World Health Organization | Global, regional and national estimates for intimate partner violence against women and global and regional estimates for non-partner sexual violence against women https://www.who.int/news/item/09-03-2021-devastatingly-pervasive-1-in-3-women-globally-experience-violence
• UN Women UK Report by APPG | Prevalence and reporting of sexual harassment in UK public spaces https://www.unwomenuk.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/APPG-UN-Women_Sexual-Harassment-Report_2021.pdf
• What Trauma Looks like for Incarcerated Men | A study of men's lifetime trauma exposure in 2 state prisons https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7377264/
• Now and Men Podcast now-and-men.captivate.fm
• Streetbeefs Westcoast Impact Report https://www.facebook.com/Heartinthefight/photos/466668261837879
• Deep Secrets by Niobe Way https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674072428
• When Boys Become Boys by Judy Chu https://nyupress.org/9780814764800/when-boys-become-boys/
• Remaking Manhood resources: linktr.ee/RemakingManhood

Connect with our guests:

• Dr. Stephen Burrell | Researcher, Author - Durham University
• Mark Greene | Author, Speaker - Remaking Manhood
• Daniel Castillo | Co-Founder - Castillo Consulting Partners
• Pheng Thao | Co-founder - Man Forward ​

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