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×Host Bryndis Whitson welcomes David Kalinchuk, an economic developer and author of “Rich for the Right Reasons” , to discuss warehouse logistics and urban planning. Dave talks about rapid e-commerce growth and shifting consumer behaviors, how they are changing logistics hubs and requiring urban policies that can adapt. He and Bryndis explore the importance of integrating warehouses into city frameworks without disrupting communities. They also address technological advancements which are revolutionizing supply chain efficiency. Dave shares his insight into the challenge of zoning regulations in new warehouse developments, the impact of last-mile delivery on traffic, and strategies for optimizing land use in urban environments. Bryndis and Dave talk about the best practices for collaboration between city planners, businesses, and policymakers to work on logistics solutions that reduce environmental impact while still supporting economic growth. Dave’s experience and expertise inform his thoughts on workforce development in the logistics sector and his conversation with Bryndis is well-informed and engaging. About David Kalinchuk: As a result of his decades-long career in Economic Development, Dave has worked with many globally recognized companies as they expanded and built new facilities in Western Canada. His responsibilities have included investment attraction, prospect generation, site selector communications, marketing and corporate image development. David Kalinchuk was most recently the Economic Development Manager for Rocky View County. Prior to coming to Alberta, Dave was the Manager of Economic Development for the City of Prince Rupert in British Columbia. Dave also worked for the Virden-Wallace Community Development Corporation in his home town in Manitoba. Before moving to Alberta in 2001, Dave sat on the Province of Manitoba’s Rural Advisory Committee, the Science and Technology Advisory Committee, and was a councilor on the Premier’s Economic Innovation and Technology Council (EITC). In British Columbia, Dave was a member of the Province’s Offshore Oil and Gas Task Force. In Dave’s extra time, he cooks exotic cuisine (East Indian, North African and Middle Eastern foods) and is regarded as a culinary horticulturalist. Dave also paints and regularly travels overseas to deliver lectures at universities, business schools and international conferences throughout Central and Eastern Europe. Dave has written a book entitled "Rich for the Right Reasons – Economic Development of the Individual" and keeps busy promoting the book and speaking to groups large and small. Dave’s professional memberships include the International Economic Development Council in Washington D.C. (IEDC), Economic Developers Association of Alberta (EDA) and the Economic Developers Association of Canada (EDAC). Dave is also a member of CoreNet (Corporate Real Estate Network), the Industrial Asset Management Council (IAMC) and the International Council of Shopping Centers (ICSC). — Contact Bryndis Whitson: Website: ZebrasToApples.com Instagram: @ZebrasToApples LinkedIn Contact David Kalinchuk: Book: “Rich for the Right Reasons” by David Kalinchuk LinkedIn — Transcript Bryndis 0:00 Hi. My name is Bryndis Whitson, and you're listening to the Zebras to Apples podcast, showcasing the fun and fascinating stories of supply chain logistics. Economic development and supply chain are intertwined. The supply chain industry brings jobs, development and growth to markets both large and small. This podcast chat is with Dave Kalinchuk, economic developer extraordinaire. Dave's career includes Prince Rupert and Rocky View County. He's the author of Rich for the Right Reasons, which showcases how economic development principles can transfer to the individual. Enjoy this episode with my friend Dave Kalinchuk. Have a great day. Bryndis 0:42 So I'm here with Dave Kalinchuk, and we're talking all things supply chain, logistics and Development. Dave 0:47 Thank you for having me, Bryndis, congratulations on this channel, by the way. It's a great platform, I think, to have a voice for supply chain, for transportation logistics, especially in Western Canada, is very timely. So perfect. Congratulations on this and your other ventures that, of course, we don't need to talk about because we've already talked about them. Bryndis 1:07 So thank you so much. Yeah, appreciate it. Yeah. So I just kind of wanted for us to kind of focus a lot and talk a bit about some of your previous experiences, the different things you've kind of learned through working in economic development in those kinds of areas. Dave 1:31 Yeah. Well, my career has taken me about little over 30 years, to three provinces. I know that's hard to believe, but yeah, I started in Manitoba. Of course, the joke that I tell is with all my East Coast friends that I'm from out east, and my Newfoundland friends say, Well, I don't recognize your accent. It must be Cape Breton or somewhere. I say, No, no, I'm from Manitoba. They say, that's not east. So I come from the Middle East. So Manitoba is, is where I was born and raised, also a fairly significant location for transportation logistics, with the history of western Canada, largely, very much based out of Winnipeg, and spent a lot of time in Winnipeg and a lot of time, you know, working with business and industry and the provincial government at the time. Then my career took me to Prince Rupert BC, where you've got the wonderful Prince Rupert port, and all of the great things that come into Canada through that West Coast again, just naturally led me into a very interesting space in transportation, logistics, working with- Bryndis 2:29 Well, and it brings up, like so many different areas that you immediately have to learn. Dave 2:34 Precisely. Yeah. So I think everyone in their lifetime should visit Prince Rupert. Everyone in their lifetime should spend part of their career in rural and remote communities. And of course, Prince Rupert is a pretty nice place to be, as far as rural and remote goes, because you're right on the ocean. But yeah, the role of the port and the CM line that runs out to that location, of course, brought me to Calgary region in 2001. Spent the better part of my career, over 20 years with Rocky View County and all the stars aligned. Cn did a major investment during that time, $250 million. Bryndis 3:10 Yes, they did. Dave 3:10 And then port facility, and of course, you know, we're going to talk about Pacific Prairie Gateway, which is a CP initiative, CPKC initiative, but it was very fortunate for me to be in Calgary working on on Investment Attraction and economic development and having all of these supply chain opportunities basically come to Calgary. Bryndis 3:34 Well, and you know, with the knowledge tha...…
Host Bryndis Whitson welcomes Greg Principato, current president of the Federation Aeronautique Internationale World Airsports and former CEO of the National Aeronautic Association of the United States, to the show. Greg brings an extensive history of experience and lifetime of passion for aviation to his conversation with Bryndis. He shares his career journey, insight into aviation logistics, and thoughts about current air travel and airports with listeners. Greg gives Bryndis a brief history of the aviation industry and discusses what his role at the National Aeronautic Association entailed, part of which included certifying aviation records set by daring people in the realm of flight feats. He stresses the economic importance of aviation, highlighting that it’s not just a form of travel for people’s pleasure and business, but a vital cog in the supply chain. Greg and Bryndis also talk about innovations in the aviation industry, from noise reduction at airports to efficiency in security measures, which include pre-check and automated passport controls. Greg offers a peek behind the curtain into the complexities and novelties of the aviation industry. About Greg Principato: Greg has enjoyed a more than 40-year career in government, NGO, business and association sectors. For the past 32 years, his focus has been aviation. He is currently the President of the Federation Aeronautique Internationale (FAI), the International Air Sports Federation (recognized as such by the International Olympic Committee). FAI is the oldest global aviation organization. Greg previously worked on Capitol Hill, in state government, for an NGO, a law firm and as Executive Director of a Presidential Commission on Aviation. He held the President/CEO position for three major aviation associations, most recently the National Aeronautic Association, the nation's oldest national aviation organization. Greg’s prior position was President/CEO of the National Association of State Aviation Officials, representing the men and women who run the aviation offices and programs in the 50 states, Guam and Puerto Rico. Greg previously served as President and CEO of the trade association for North American airports for eight years (Airports Council International - North America). He brought a more successful business-oriented focus to the association, resulting in a tripling of net assets, creation of a year's operating reserve; all while expanding staff and association offerings to members. He achieved, or made substantial progress on, all legislative and regulatory goals, as well as achieved full integration of U.S. and Canadian members into a full North American organization. Annual member surveys showed steady and increasing member satisfaction. He was an effective builder and leader of a high quality and diverse staff. The quality and diversity of the association staff was widely noticed and well-regarded in the industry. Greg has been a leader in successful efforts to reform and re-focus the world airport association, which today is regarded as a major force in shaping global aviation trends. — Contact Bryndis Whitson: Website: ZebrasToApples.com Instagram: @ZebrasToApples LinkedIn Contact Greg Principato: Website: FAI.org LinkedIn — Transcript Bryndis 0:02 Hi. My name is Bryndis Whitson, and you're listening to the Zebras to Apples podcast, the fun and fascinating stories of supply chain logistics. My guest for this episode is aviation expert Greg Principato. Greg's career has included being the President of the Airports Council International North America, the President and CEO of the National Association of State Aviation Officials, and most recently, was the president and CEO of the National Aeronautic Association of the United States. Greg is currently the president of the Federation Aeronautique Internationale World Airsports Federation. I was honored to have Greg join me via zoom from Virginia, and share with us his passion for aviation. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did, chatting with my friend Greg Principato. Have a wonderful day. So I'm here today with Greg Principato, and we're talking a lot about aviation, but a lot of different areas that have kind of happened in the world and different discussions today. So thank you so much for being here. Greg 1:10 Thanks for having me. It's great to be reconnected with you. Bryndis 1:13 Yes, it's great. We had some good conversations over the years about various kinds of topics too. So tell me a little bit about your kind of career history, so you've kind of had a multi variety experience, which is excellent, so. Greg 1:31 Yeah, I think it's funny. I've already talked to college students, for example, my two step daughters, and they say, you know, they want to know, they want to make a decision when they're 20 that'll affect where they are when they're 68 which is how old I am. And I just laugh, you know, and say I wanted to be ambassador to the Soviet Union when I was in college. And yeah, here we are. I didn't do well in the Russian language, so that took that away right away, anyway. But yeah, I started in politics. I worked for a US senator from Louisiana named Bennett Johnston, and back in those days, he was a Conservative Democrat. Here in the US, there used to be those, and he was probably more conservative than some of the liberal Republicans, and he was one of those people that helped make things happen. So it was great to jump right in and be part of solutions and not just write stuff saying the other side's terrible. Used to be like that in the old days. After a few years of that, I took a job as a legislative assistant to Joe Biden, who was the senator from Delaware at the time, and it was, it was long enough ago. He was still in his 30s when I got that job and worked for him for four years, doing a variety of domestic issues. And then I got the job that really was the fulcrum of my career. Everybody's got that one job that everything else turns on. And so I got a job with the governor of Virginia, a fellow named Jerry Beliles, who we remained friends with until five years ago. And he was very interested in economic development. He was very interested in transportation and aviation. As a part of that, one of the first things that he did, and it was fun to be part of, was pass the biggest tax increase in the history of the state, and all of it went to transportation. Oh, wow, highways, airports, seaports and rail. By the way, it had 85% approval in the polls, because people understood that it was going to improve their lives, and that we worked on the legislation creating the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority. So we worked on the project that led to the Smithsonian opening the Big Air and Space Museum over by Dulles. So really was a sort of an immersion in aviation, along with all the other issues. And then I went with him to the private sector. And sort of the big moment came in 1993 when President Clinton and the Congress created a commission. We had Pan Am Eastern and Braniff going out of business, McDonnell Douglas was on i...…
Host Bryndis Whitson welcomes Alison Mercer, the Senior Curator of the Military Museums in Calgary, Alberta. Alison was the curator of the Cold War exhibit in the Air Force Museum and is currently overseeing its expansion alongside the board. Alison talks about what it’s like to curate museum exhibits, how artifacts are sourced, and the supply chain logistics of transporting a fighter jet down the highway. Alison has a breadth of museum knowledge and fascinating stories to share. Alison's interest in military history stemmed from her father, who she calls an amateur military historian. She grew up with books and artefacts, took a Canadian Military History course, and sought a posting for an internship with the military museums that turned into a 14+ year career. Alison describes the Air Force Museum’s set up, including the Great Escape Experience and the Cold War exhibit and how tech combines with experiential experiences in both exhibits. She and Bryndis discuss sourcing everything from display cabinets and lighting to exactly which types of transportation are used to transport major artefacts, how they’re preserved during transfer, and the complex logistics of driving a CF 100 fighter jet down a highway. About Alison Mercer: Alison Mercer has fourteen years of on-the-job experience in museums, including display preparation and fabrication, project management, artifact classification, and storage methods. She has also engaged in six years of research training at the university level, including the production of two theses and four major papers. Alison’s primary focus is Canadian military history from the 18th century to the Korean War and her secondary concentration is Métis history. — Contact Bryndis Whitson: Website: ZebrasToApples.com Instagram: @ZebrasToApples LinkedIn Contact Alison Mercer: LinkedIn The Military Museums of Calgary, Alberta — Transcript Bryndis 0:03 Hi. My name is Bryndis Whitson, and you're listening to the Zebras to Apples podcast, the fun and fascinating stories of supply chain logistics. What I love to do is highlight what is supply chain logistics that you would not normally think about, and that's exactly what this podcast is all about. You might not think of a museum as a hub of supply chain logistics, but it totally is. Think about it, the collection, the artifact, the painting, or in this case of this podcast, the airplane had to get there somehow. It requires care and attention and precision. My guest for this episode is Alison Mercer, the senior curator of the military museums in Calgary, also referred to as TMM. Alison, was the curator of the Air Force Museum in the Cold War exhibit, and is currently overseeing its expansion with its board. This episode highlights not only a great museum, but also an area of supply chain logistics you might not have thought about, please join me and my friend Alison Mercer as we talk about how do you move a fighter jet down the highway, amongst other things. Okay, so I'm here with Alison, and we're talking about museums and the logistics and supply chain that actually is involved in curating a whole bunch of different activities. So tell me about how you got to the military museum. Alison 1:26 So yeah, it's, I grew up with a lot of military stuff, kind of in the house, because my dad's very much sort of, like an amateur military historian. Likes a lot of, like, the material culture that comes with it. So yeah, I grew up a house full of books and, you know, here's, like, random inner tank shells and things like that, and- Bryndis 1:43 Just random things around the house. Alison 1:46 Yeah, like, every kid has, so, yeah, yeah. So, it was just, like, very much, like, standard part of my life, since, like, getting to the point of remembering things, and, yeah, so, and then I went into university, studied kind of a variety of different sort of fields of history. And then by I think it was the middle of undergrad, took my first kind of Canadian Military History course, and it was just like, I know all this. Like, I don't know it, know it, but like, it feels like coming home, so throughout kind of the rest of my undergrad degree, I went ahead with that, focused on that, and then for my master's degree, pursued that same topic, specifically Canadian Army in the Second World War. Bryndis 2:23 Okay. Alison 2:24 And just looking at sort of styles of leadership, which, again, leadership analysis, and kind of comparing some of the senior officers of the Canadian Army to each other and how they were good and how they were bad. And so yeah, that that was pretty much it, yeah. And then at one point in undergrad, I saw a job posting for an internship here, applied, got the job, came here, did it for that summer, and then went off to grad school. And then after grad school, called the museum again to say, Hey, do you have any more internships? And they said, Well, no, but the Navy Museum is looking for an assistant curator. Again, it's pretty much an internship position, but, yeah, yeah, it still was going to kind of like, you know, open a door or two. I had no intention whatsoever of actually doing this as a career. It was just like, here's a job. Okay. I know this stuff. I will do this job. And then that turned into, like, about two years later, working for the Air Force Museum here as their curator, which I've done for 14 and a half years. And then just recently, I got hired on as the senior curator for the whole military museum. And yeah, it's, it's kind of like a little bit of shell shock there. But yeah, yeah, I'm stoked anyway. Bryndis 3:31 Which was really exciting. Alison 3:32 Thanks. Yeah, yeah. Bryndis 3:33 And so at the Air Force Museum, there's a lot of different displays you've had, sending up two different, like sections and stuff like that. Can you maybe talk a little bit just about what's in part of the Air Force part of the museum at the moment? Alison 3:48 Yeah, for sure. So the way the Air Force Museum here is set up is we have two specific galleries. We have the interior gallery. We just revamped a little bit of that, added this really cool display. It's called The Great Escape Experience. I wanted something kind of experiential based there too, that wasn't just like a touch screen that was breaking all the time. And essentially, it's a facsimile of one of the prisoner war huts from Stalag Luft lll as per Great Escape moody fame, I guess. And as well, a recreated length of the tunnel. It's built to the same height and width of the original that people can actually go through themselves on a little trolley. So yeah, so that's the inside gallery. And then the outside gallery is our Cold War exhibit sponsored by Ken Lett, who unfortunately, has lately passed away, but he was a big, big benefactor there. And it is really like the only milit...…

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Host Bryndis Whitson welcomes executive and supply chain expert Siobhan Chinnery to the podcast to talk about some of the diverse industries, ever-changing challenges, and fun surprises the supply chain offers. Recognized as one of 100 Influential Women in Canadian Supply Chain by Supply Chain Canada, Siobhan has a wealth of experience and some fascinating hands-on stories to share about how the supply chain works and the allure of the problem-solving opportunities it offers. Siobhan first discusses the start of her career in the supply chain, explaining how she moved from accounting to getting on-the-job training from expert consultants and some of the negotiation tactics she learned first-hand. She tells Bryndis how her work took her to various companies and how demands like forecasting peak cold weather spikes throughout the country and contemplating business continuation strategies are needed. Siobhan’s peek into the supply chain includes stories of fires and floods shutting down offices, transporting supplies for the Junior Hockey Canada Team without breaking hockey sticks, and top-secret Porsche test car transportation and travel planning. This episode allows a glimpse into just how much diversity can be involved in a career in supply chain logistics. About Siobhan Chinnery: With a distinguished career as an executive and supply chain expert, Siobhan Chinnery has navigated the complexities of both professional and personal challenges, particularly following the loss of her husband. Over the years, she has built a reputation for delivering impactful keynotes on a wide range of topics, including self-care, team engagement, leadership growth, wellness, and the importance of diversity, equity and inclusion. Siobhan Chinnery is an accomplished supply chain and operations leader with three decades of experience transforming business strategies and improving total cost of ownership. Recognized as one of 100 Influential Women in Canadian Supply Chain by Supply Chain Canada, Siobhan has led large teams across multiple industries, driving significant operational improvements. She shares her expertise in positive leadership and resilience through professional speaking engagements, empowering organizations to thrive in challenging environments. — Contact Bryndis Whitson: Website: ZebrasToApples.com Instagram: @ZebrasToApples LinkedIn Contact Siobhan Chinnery: Website: SiobhanChinnery.com LinkedIn — Transcript Bryndis Whitson: [00:00:03] Hi, my name is Bryndis Whitson, and you're listening to the Zebras to Apples podcast, the fun and fascinating stories of supply chain and logistics. My guest for this podcast is Siobhan Chinnery, who has had an amazing career as a supply chain and leadership expert. Siobhan showcases how you can move around the supply chain industry and expand your knowledge. She's worked in forest products, oil and gas, global projects and customs, propane and heavy equipment. Siobhan is now sharing her knowledge with others as an adjunct instructor at SAIT and a principal of Be Grateful Management. Siobhan and I dive right into this discussion with a chat about negotiation. We talk about everything from tracking weather patterns to improve deliveries, to customs, to moving secret portions. Please join me in a conversation with my friend Siobhan Chinnery, a true powerhouse. So I'm here with Siobhan and we're talking about supply chain logistics. And Siobhan has such a great history. And I thought we'd just really start kind of talking about your career history and some amazing stories that you've got from the industry. Siobhan Chinnery: [00:01:14] So I think the interesting thing about my story is how I started in that I was actually working in accounting, and I was asked by my controller to go do a special project. And a special project was a strategic sourcing initiative with consultants. Bryndis Whitson: [00:01:33] Okay. Siobhan Chinnery: [00:01:34] And this was 1998, I think. And so at the time, at least to my knowledge, there really wasn't any educational programs. Bryndis Whitson: [00:01:44] Especially then. Siobhan Chinnery: [00:01:45] Yeah. To learn about strategic sourcing and that sort of thing. So I went on this project and we were in a trailer in the parking lot at the company, it was Canfor. And we worked with these consultants who flew in every Monday from Chicago and flew out every Thursday. And we worked with them for over two years. And so I shared an office with Nick, who was a 30 year pro, former Andersen Consulting guy. And I just learned everything from him. And so when I would write an RFP, he would like almost like a teacher, like he would correct it and give me feedback. And when I would do negotiations, he would be there and watch me and coach me. And so it was an amazing way to learn business. For two years I have this guy working with me on everything coaching me through it. Bryndis Whitson: [00:02:38] Who's got so much experience and so many things. Siobhan Chinnery: [00:02:40] Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was, back then he was 30 years in and yeah. So it was really interesting. Bryndis Whitson: [00:02:46] Yeah. And what a good way to learn all of those ins and outs too because I mean RFPs I'm sure have like so many different things to add in and don't add in. Siobhan Chinnery: [00:02:55] Yeah. Yeah. And then learning to just these different negotiation strategies like how do you generate leverage when you don't have leverage. So you know, we in the sawmill industry and in the pulp mill industry, frankly, your sawmill or pulp mill is usually built right on a rail line. So you're pretty tied to that railway company. Right. And our pulp mill, we were on a CN line, and we didn't like the price increases we were getting from CN. And so Nick and the other consultants worked with me on developing a strategy where we could create some kind of leverage where CN would actually take us seriously. And so we did a big trucking trial, because on the pulp mill, there still was the old doors, the old loading doors for trucks. That were there previous to the railway line. So and then in order for CN to make sure that CN was aware of it, we put this big splashy story in our company newsletter that went out to all of our suppliers and all of our employees every month. Siobhan Chinnery: [00:04:02] And we put in this big splashy thing about this trial we were doing on trucks. And we actually did it. And a substantial increase per tonne, cost per tonne. We did chuck out pulp to make sure CN realized that we were really serious about this, that we weren't just going to be holding to any rate increase they wanted. And so I always thought that was really interesting story. And I've shared that with, you know, my teams over the years because sometimes you don't have leverage and you have to think of creative ways to create leverage. ...…
Host Bryndis Whitson welcomes port operations developer and land lease logistics expert Arénso Bakker to the show to explore how port infrastructure impacts the supply chain. Bryndis and Arénso met at a Canada and Netherlands Roundtable over discussions on what was happening in both the Netherlands and Canada at the time. Arénso brings a wealth of land, operational, logistical, port, and mediation experience to this interview, shedding light on some of the unseen aspects of ports and how they operate. Arénso shares a bit about his own career journey before delving into an examination of port site development and all the considerations that must be worked through, including location logistics, jobs, local needs, people for the jobs, and companies willing to use the port. He and Bryndis discuss the potential for double-use warehouse structures to offer greenspace to communities surrounding distribution centres, the intricacies of developing the Panama Canal through an expansion, and the necessity of new ways of thinking about delivery modalities and the circular economy model. About Arènso Bakker: Arènso has a background in both logistic engineering (ing. @Maritime Academy Amsterdam) and holds a master's degree in real estate, property- and area development (Msc. @Amsterdam School of Real Estate). He works internationally on development and landlord operations of ports, logistics-area, economic zones and transformations. Arènso has been involved in many infrastructure investments and land transactions as an interim manager, negotiator or advisor. Further, he is a registered valuer. His knowledge of logistic operations, property-exploitations, landlord operations and land leases and concessions, is a solid ground for complex property issues and valuations. Besides, being an experienced advisor, interim manager and valuer, Arènso is also acting as a mediator for alternative dispute resolution and judicial expert with a focus on land-related issues, and disputes. To assure certified standards and ethics Arènso is a member of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. This is the world's leading professional body for qualifications and standards in land, property and construction and is a recognized mark of property professionalism (www.rics.org). He is also registered with the Dutch NRVT (www.nrvt.nl), the international ADR register (www.adr-register.com) and the Dutch LRGD register (www.lrgd.nl). Contact Bryndis Whitson: Website: ZebrasToApples.com Instagram: @ZebrasToApples LinkedIn Contact Arènso Bakker: Website: NLhave.com LinkedIn Bryndis Whitson: [00:00:03] Hi, my name is Bryndis Whitson, and you're listening to the Zebras to Apples podcast, the fun and fascinating stories of supply chain logistics. My guest for this episode is with my friend Arénso Bakker. Arénso and I met because we sat next to each other at a Canada / Netherlands roundtable and have been chatting ever since. Arénso lives in the Netherlands and has worked around the world on projects that improve supply chains. This includes the Panama and Suez canals and the port of Rotterdam, which is Europe's largest seaport. What I love about this conversation and chatting with Lorenzo in general, is it showcases the interconnection that we have in the world and how much we can learn from one another as conversations with friends go, we started chatting before we officially began the recording, so immediately we jump in and talk about projects happening in the Netherlands. You never know where you're going to meet new people who become really good friends that you chat with around the world. Join us on a conversation that highlights supply chain logistics and port infrastructure from the Netherlands to Panama, and everywhere in between. Arènso Bakker: [00:00:40] The mainstream of goods coming into the Netherlands are transferred to Germany, to France or to Belgium. So we are a gate to Europe, and I think Canada is more a gate to itself. So you're receiving a lot of goods. And then of course, so if you, if you look at logistics and supply chain, it's very much about you can have a distribution center for local needs. So people from all the shops and all the food you need, but you can also have, and that's what we have in the Netherlands, it's a regional distribution center and they are there to receive goods, store them, and then distribute them all over Europe. And of course Europe is has about the same size as Canada, maybe even smaller, but so that's a different type of logistics. So it's completely if you receive goods for the last mile to transport into a city or into a few towns, or that you receive goods to transport them to other countries within a region. And the second one is, so receiving goods, transport them to certain regions, that gives the option to add some value to make local, to defer, to change the goods into typical goods for a certain country, and that's in the past that's always the interesting part of regional European distribution centers adding value. What was the most important one? Because then you create jobs. That's the main reason. All the local governments wanted European distribution centers in their municipality. Bryndis Whitson: [00:02:16] Yeah, exactly. Arènso Bakker: [00:02:18] Yeah. And a lot of things have changed there recently because for instance, in the Netherlands, we have a huge problem in hunting people working in distribution centers. And then so then you have to ask people to come from abroad, from Poland, from Romania, from Bulgaria into the Netherlands to work in the distribution centers. And then, of course, it's not generating jobs anymore. I mean, there are jobs, but not jobs for people in the Netherlands. And people in Netherlands are not available anymore for working in distribution centers. So then the question is why do you want to have distribution centers if it is not helping your local economy? Bryndis Whitson: [00:02:56] Oh, yeah. Arènso Bakker: [00:02:57] Then just have them in Germany or something. But not the Netherlands anymore. Because people find them ugly, they don't like the traffic, and I remember when I was driving around in Canada, I drove behind a truck and on the back of the truck it said, sick of this truck, buy less s**t. That was just the same in Canada as well. People don't like like the traffic jams. Don't like the maybe the ugly buildings around the highways. That's also happening here in the Netherlands. So there's no license to operate anymore to have these huge XXL distribution centers in the Netherlands, if they're not meant for local distribution. That's, I think, the big thing. It's everybody understands that if you have supermarkets, you have the transport needs and you need local distribution centers. But if you talk transnational ones, they don't like it anymore. And then, so for instance, if you look at at the port of Rotterdam, Port of Rotterdam is a huge port area, a lot of containers coming in. And maybe 20 years ago everybody said, yeah, if these containers come in by ship from Asia and you put them on a train and you, and the train goes to Germany, why have this port? Because the...…
Host Bryndis Whitson welcomes former transportation and airline executive Peter Wallis to the show to discuss the logistics of the airline supply chain. Peter talks about his work with Pacific Western Airlines and how his legal background and expertise in aviation law enabled him to handle regulatory and legal matters, such as aircraft sales and government relations. Bryndis’ discussion with Peter highlights the unexpected challenges in airline operations and the importance of vigilance and due diligence. Peter Wallis shares how Pacific Western Airlines, in a move to reach underserved communities, sought approval to provide air service between Brandon, Manitoba and Toronto, Ontario, which required them to overcome opposition from Air Canada. Through community engagement and strategic arguments, the airline successfully demonstrated the necessity of the service which benefited the local economy. Bryndis and Peter also explore the broader challenges of navigating the competitive airline industry, including partnerships, rivalries, and expansion strategies. Peter’s experience and insight illustrate the dynamic nature of the aviation sector, as well as the challenges and successes of managing the airline supply chain. About Peter Wallis: Peter Wallis studied aviation law for a number of years and has a degree from the University of London in aviation law. He worked for the Canadian Transport Commission as a legal counsel in all modes of transport. He was seconded as chief of staff to two federal ministers of Transport. He also worked for Pacific Western Airlines, which subsequently became Canadian Airlines, which in turn acquired CP Air and Wardair to form the major airline Canadian Airlines. — Contact Bryndis Whitson: Website: ZebrasToApples.com Instagram: @ZebrasToApples LinkedIn Contact Peter Wallis: Peter Wallis on LinkedIn — Transcript Bryndis Whitson: [00:00:03] Hi, my name is Bryndis Whitson, and you're listening to the Zebras Apples podcast. The fun and fascinating stories of supply chain logistics. Planes and airlines take us around the world. They take us on vacation. They take us to meetings and to see family and friends. They also deliver cargo and our beloved pets. In this podcast episode, my friend and former boss at the Van Horne Institute, Peter Wallis, shares stories about his time with the Government of Canada and Canadian Airlines. And if you've ever had a passion for the aviation industry, or you just really like a good story with a surprising twist or two, then this episode is for you. Please join me in hearing Peter Wallis talk about the airline sector. Bryndis Whitson: [00:00:48] Okay, so I'm here with Peter Wallis, who has had a very distinguished career in a lot of areas in transportation and supply chain. Let's start off with telling us a little bit about your career history. Peter Wallis: [00:01:04] Sure. Well, thanks for having me, Bryndis. I'm delighted to be part of this chain of podcasts that you've been putting together. I spent a number of years in the aviation industry, directly and indirectly, and I started off my career in Ottawa as a legal counsel for the Canadian Transport Commission. It's now known as the Canadian Transportation Agency, but it was founded in the last century to be the overall regulator of transportation in Canada. Prior to that, there were a number of regulatory boards. The Railway Transport Board, for example, regulated railways. Also, regulated telecommunications, which may sound a little anomalous, but the fact is that the telephone lines were hooked up to the poles that ran alongside the railways. So that's why they had jurisdiction over not only railways, but also telecommunications. Now we have the CRTC, which has more than a bag of issues related to, other than wired communications, but that's another story. The other boards were the Air Transport Board, and there were a couple of others, and they all came together in the Canadian Transport Commission. I had the opportunity to join that organization as a legal counsel after I returned from the UK, where I had taken a master of laws degree, primarily focusing on aviation at the London School of Economics. Peter Wallis: [00:02:34] Interestingly enough, I joined the same day that the appointment to Edward "Eddie" Laborde, a very prominent oil man in the Calgary community. He's now passed away, but Eddie was appointed by Jack Pickersgill as a member of the Canadian Transportation Agency. Jack Pickersgill subsequently became the president of the agency. One of my first tasks with the agency, because it was responsible for determining the success or failure of any application to provide an air service in Canada. From the large operators for the large airplanes down to the bush planes, they all had to be licensed by the Air Transport Committee of the Canadian Transportation Commission, the CTC. As legal counsel, I would go out on these hearings and assist the commissioners in the development of the evidence, which was primarily the responsibility, of course, of the applicant, or indeed the opponent, because these were full blown hearings in which an entrepreneur could apply to operate an air service in a certain area. But there would be the incumbents who would clearly argue that there was enough capacity provided by them and that no competition was required, and the agency had to make a decision on whether there could be more competitors based on the simple premise of public convenience and necessity. Peter Wallis: [00:04:14] If you can have a definition of public convenience and necessity, you'll probably find many of them if you go into the textbooks and the dictionaries. But some people described it as an exercise in determining how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. One of my first hearings was actually with Mr. Pickersgill, and it was a hearing in Newfoundland. In fact, it was in Happy Valley-Goose Bay. As legal counsel, part of my role was to swear in witnesses because they were appearing before a quasi judicial tribunal. You were obviously under oath with the penalties of the Evidence Act to follow if you were found to have committed perjury. One of the witnesses that came forward in this hearing, I can't remember the exact details of the matters that were before us, but the subsequent witness to the applicant was a local member of Parliament. Jack Pickersgill, who some of your listeners may or may not know so let me just give a quick, brief thumbnail there. Jack Pickersgill had a very illustrious career as a Liberal in the government of Mackenzie King and subsequently Louis St. Laurent. He was initially a bureaucrat and rose to the position of the senior bureaucrat in the Privy Council, the clerk of the Privy Council. Then he was persuaded to go into politics by, I believe it was Mr. St. Laurent, and go into politics he did. The writing that was chosen for him was one that he was obviously not a citizen of at the time. Quickly though, picked up the language, cadence, the community spirit, and indeed the characteristics of a Newfoundlander because his writing that he was parachuted into was a Newfoundland writing. Bonavista-Twillingate. Peter Wallis: [00:06:27] Mr. Pickersgill therefore, and he act...…
Host Bryndis Whitson welcomes railway expert Trish Slivinski to the show. Trish works for railways and companies that are clients of railways and has experience in a wide array of different jobs relating to train travel. She shares how she got involved with rail and what she’s learned from it as well as how the different aspects of rail travel can affect the supply chain. Trish explains all the intricacies of rail transport including train schedules, loading, finance, operations, and a host of disciplines that keep railways functional. She has experience working in a great many of them and that knowledge gives her insight into how the supply chain is impacted and enhanced by the specifics of railways. Trish and Bryndis discuss everything from how rail is a greener mode of transport than trucks and what it takes to get a train moving to how strikes affect rail transport and the potential for worker accidents. Trish has advice for anyone curious about a career in railways and shares the challenges and rewards of such a choice. About Trish Slivinski: Trish Slivinski was born in the small Northern Ontario City of Thunder Bay. She grew up the oldest of 4 siblings with a stay-at-home mother and an entrepreneur father. Her mother was from a broken family and both parents taught her the value of hard work and personal success at an early age. These deep-rooted values motivated Trish to leave the small Northern Ontario City to pursue post-secondary education. During her second year at university, she found a summer job in transportation at CP Rail which led to a successful long-term career in Transportation. She graduated from the University of Manitoba with a Bachelor of Science degree in Mathematics and then she worked on a Business Admin degree before being transferred to Vancouver BC. During her railway career, she has relocated to pursue promotions in Vancouver and Calgary, at the CP Head Office. Trish has an accomplished career in rail that has spanned a variety of departments including; Intermodal, Finance, Contingency Planning, Operations Business Performance, Service Design, and Bulk Train Planning. She has attained a variety of skills throughout her career; Process Improvement, Six Sigma, Lean Management, Financial and Operational Analysis, Performance Measurement, KPI Metrics, and Project Management. She was also trained as a Train Conductor. The crude oil decline in Alberta in 2016 resulted in a major career change for Trish when she was laid off from CP and found herself, for the first time in her life, unemployed. She has seized this opportunity to start a new career in a different industry, Road Construction. She worked for the last 2 years as the Supply and Logistics Coordinator for Western Canada with (Colas) McAsphalt Industries. She is a single mother of twin boys, a hockey enthusiast, and can be seen in the summer riding her motorcycle (Lily). Resources discussed in this episode: Sheldon Nagy accident story — Contact Bryndis Whitson: Website: ZebrasToApples.com Instagram: @ZebrasToApples LinkedIn Contact Trish Slivinski: Trish Slivinski on LinkedIn — Transcript Bryndis Whitson: [00:00:03] Hi, my name is Bryndis Whitson, and you're listening to the Zebras to Apples podcast. The fun and fascinating stories of supply chain logistics. Every town and city it feels like has a train going through it. Countries were built and connected by the railway. In Canada, $380 billion of goods are moved each year by rail, and it supports at least 188,000 jobs. In the United States, it's almost $900 billion and 120,399 employees as of September 2024. In this podcast, I chat with my friend and railroader Trish Slivinski. Trish worked for one of Canada's Class one railways, CP Rail, now known as CP KC, for 29 years and continues to work in the rail industry. We see trains coming and going through our community, but rarely do we know where they are going or what they what they are carrying. Please join me in my conversation with Trish Slivinski and learn a little bit more about the railway and the trains going through your community. Bryndis Whitson: Okay, so I'm here with Trish and we're talking about supply chain logistics. Trish has a really fascinating background from everything in rail but also in sales and so many different things that we'll kind of get into, so welcome. Trish Slivinski: [00:00:57] Thank you, Bryndis. Thanks for having me. This is great. Bryndis Whitson: [00:01:00] Let's start at a basic thing of, how did you get into this kind of field in general? Trish Slivinski: [00:01:06] I think it was just my first job. I was in Winnipeg, I had left home to go to University of Manitoba, I took my Bachelor of Science in math and graduated. Before I graduated, I was looking for a summer job. I had gone back home, a couple of years done work at home. Then I'm like, no, I really want to stay and applied for this job at the rail. My friend's dad worked at the office and that started me in my rail job. That was based in intermodal, which at the time I didn't know much about rail. There was different options, but intermodal is the containers that travel on a rail car, and you see those containers being delivered by a truck on the last mile. We loaded those railcars with the containers, and we did at the time also have these trucks that backed onto cars, which they called piggyback, but they don't have that anymore. So you could tell how old I am. Bryndis Whitson: [00:02:12] Not that old. Trish Slivinski: [00:02:13] Well anyways, they backed those things down, what they called a circus ramp. I was able to, because I worked quite a few nights and stuff, so I was able to practice my backing up. I've backed up a semi down one of those tracks. I've also used one of those packer machines that places the containers on the railcars. There was a lot of little things that I got to experience when I was there. I worked there ten years, basically through my degree. Then they transferred me, so I got to go to Vancouver from Winnipeg. I spent some time in intermodal there. Then they transferred me to Calgary, where you find me now. The thing about the railway is, it's like a large company and there's so many different opportunities at different areas that I was able to use my schooling, use some of my experience and get different jobs. For me, that was what kept me there and kept me interested. They placed me in a role every couple of years, which just kept everything so interesting to me. I was in finance, I did accounting, I did service design, designed the train schedules. Then I ended up in an operations group at the very end planning coal trains, which was so different as well, but very interesting. Bryndis Whitson: [00:03:49] Math is such a big piece that people don't normally think of. Trish Slivinski: [00:03:54] No. I mean, the whole world of analytics is now blown up exponentially with AI and stuff. But very driven in the railway, the math.…
Host Bryndis Whitson welcomes Steve Armstrong, a leadership expert with a career that spans the Canadian military, Canadian Red Cross, and many areas in between, to the show. Bryndis and Steve talk about military and emergency preparedness and how that fits in with supply chain logistics. Steve Armstrong’s experience with September 9/11 terrorist response, flood response, and military endeavors sheds much light on how supply chain is an integral part of emergency assistance. Bryndis and Steve discuss the complexities of even something as seemingly simple as getting food rations, enough for 3 meals per day for 40 soldiers, to where the soldiers are stationed. Behind every soldier, Steve says, is an estimated 3 people in administration and logistics ensuring supplies flow smoothly. They talk about emergency response and the intricacies of not just getting help in but getting debris out and where to put it. There are many things to consider in the wake of a natural disaster in terms of the logistics of assistance. But Steve also stresses that at the end of every logistics problem is a real person impacted by a terrible circumstance and why keeping them in mind is so key. This episode demonstrates the ripple effect of supply chain during crisis events and how everything is tied together. About Steve Armstrong: Steven Armstrong worked worldwide as a member of the Canadian Armed Forces and the Red Cross for more than four decades. On the literal frontlines for many of the globe’s most notable humanitarian crises during that time – ranging from the shores of Sri Lanka after the 2004 tsunami, to the aftermath of 9/11 in New York, to wildfires across Canada, to the devastation of floods [most recently in British Columbia} – Steve has proven, over and over again, what authentic leadership means. Faced with complex missions and tasks that required extreme precision and unfailing resolve, Steve learned early on that properly inspiring his teams to act, move, and overcome obstacles would be the key to ongoing success. Rather than force compliance, he used his natural virtue, honour, and trustworthiness to motivate people. This exceedingly “human” side of his character enabled authentic connections and trust – instilling confidence, determination, and encouragement in all who followed his examples. As a speaker, consultant, and author of You Can’t Lead From Behind, Steve uses humour, honesty, and a lifetime of hard-learned lessons to tell his story and teach others how to become better and more effective leaders. Through his global experience, his approach is down-to-earth and genuine, giving you and your leadership team the personalized tools and confidence they need to succeed. Resources discussed in this episode: “Moving Mountains: Lessons in Leadership and Logistics from the Gulf War” by William G. Pagonis and Jeffrey L. Cruikshank — Contact Bryndis Whitson: Website: ZebrasToApples.com Instagram: @ZebrasToApples LinkedIn Contact Steve Armstrong: Website: StevenArmstrong.ca Steve Armstrong on LinkedIn — Transcript Bryndis Whitson: [00:00:03] Hi, my name is Bryndis Whitson, and you're listening to the Zebras to Apples podcast. The fun and fascinating stories of supply chain logistics. Fires, floods, tsunamis, hailstorms, earthquakes and volcanoes. They're all over the news. They truly impact all of us. And sometimes, when we least expect it. When an emergency occurs, are we prepared? What do we do to make sure that we're ready? As those of us in Girl Guides or Scouts would say, the old motto be prepared. My guest for this episode is my friend Steve Armstrong. He has spent his career making sure that institutions and organizations are prepared. Steve and I met when I was hosting a conference entitled Ready at a Moment's Notice The Logistics of the Military and Emergency Preparedness, which is exactly Steve's career. He has worked in the military with government, the Red Cross, and is a leadership expert and consultant, as well as an instructor at Mount Royal University. This interview was recorded in 2024 before the LA wildfires. When an emergency occurs, logistics experts are there to assist in the crisis, the cleanup and the rebuild. Please join me on this conversation with Steve Armstrong. Bryndis Whitson: [00:01:23] Part of the way we met was you were working at the Red Cross, but previously before that you'd worked at the military. You've had a lot of different experiences. Maybe, let's start with just kind of a broad overview. Steve Armstrong: [00:01:35] Oh my gosh. Okay. So it's been a checkered history I would say. I was kind of asked to leave high school because my guidance counselor suggested if I wasn't doing anything, I shouldn't do it there. And I had been a member of the Army Reserves at the time and then full time service after that. Luckily for me, because I didn't have much education and ended up working through a 22 year Army career, ending up in 98/99 as a retiring as an acting RSM and Sergeant Major. And then I spent three years in the Northwest Territories in a remote community, fly-in community with a winter road for a few months of the year called Norman Wells as a town administrator, town manager. And then I joined Red Cross the January of 2001. And I remember that distinctly, because when I was hired, I was told it was going to be a quiet, simple job, that we were to gear up and mobilize and train volunteers to be prepared to respond. And if anyone's even remotely aware, 2001 was the September 11th terrorism attack in New York City. Bryndis Whitson: [00:02:51] Quite the timing. Steve Armstrong: [00:02:52] Yeah, and there was also a papal visit and a big flood in the northwest or northern Ontario on James Bay. And that just launched this unbelievable trajectory into emergency and disaster management, and part of which included most every big disaster in Canada over those 12 years or so, including few trips to the States for both September 11th and then hurricanes, and then almost a year in Sri Lanka post tsunami, doing recovery work there for most of two, well, the tsunami was, if you can imagine, was 20 years ago this Christmas. And so most of 2005, I spent time both domestically and internationally working on the tsunami response. And then I ended up at the end of Red Cross, I was in charge of all of our operations in Alberta and Northwest Territories. Coincidentally, was Slave Lake and a bunch of big disasters here. We made the headlines several times in Alberta as Disaster Central and then a retiring after the southern Alberta floods, 2013. And then since then, I've been working as a consultant and a speaker and educator and coach around leadership and organizational issues for the last 10 or 11 years. So, yeah, it's quite a career. Bryndis Whitson: [00:04:20] Very much so. Steve Armstrong: [00:04:21] My guidance counselor would crap her pants if she knew what...…
Welcome to the Zebras to Apples podcast, the fun and fascinating stories of supply chain logistics. In this first episode, host Bryndis Whitson talks with George Read, who has had a 25+ year career in supply chain, procurement and buying. The conversation focuses on his experiences in the supply chain logistics industry. George’s career runs from working with windows to office furniture through to technology and groceries. He opens a door into the world of supply chain with fascinating stories and real-world advice on how to work in the role of what he calls the unsung hero. Bryndis and George first discuss what there is to love about a career in the supply chain where, as George says, “If you do your job well nobody knows your name”. George talks about what it takes to work effectively with salespeople, the obligation of reciprocity, and how to problem-solve the many issues that crop up in the supply chain process. He shares real-life stories about everything from having products on a ship that got stuck in the Suez Canal to what happens when borders close due to war. He also tells Bryndis the secret of the five currencies that people will accept to make them want to operate in compliance and, spoiler, it’s not just about money. This episode is a revealing look into what supply chain logistics is and how it affects the products we use every day. About George Read: George Read is a Supply Chain Manager with 25+ years of experience. He is a people leader, negotiator, contract manager, and a buyer. Resources discussed in this episode: “Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion” by Robert B Cialdini, PhD “Start With No: The Negotiating Tools That the Pros Don’t Want You to Know” by Jim Camp — Contact Bryndis Whitson: Website: ZebrasToApples.com Instagram: @ZebrasToApples X: https://x.com/zebrastoapples Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61568901328147 LinkedIn Contact George Read: George Read on LinkedIn — Transcript Bryndis Whitson: [00:00:03] Hi, my name is Bryndis Whitson, and you're listening to the Zebras to Apples podcast. The fun and fascinating stories of supply chain logistics. You might be asking, what is supply chain logistics? I personally look at the supply chain as the movement of goods, people, and information. It could be rail, road, air, pipe, data. As long as it's moving, it's a part of the supply chain. This podcast episode is with my good friend George Read. This episode showcases exactly this. Plus, I personally could listen to George all day long. George has been in the field for over 25 years. Everything you touch today, everything you ate, wore, or purchased had a supply chain behind it. And that is what this podcast is all about. How did that item get to you? Was it on a ship, a train, a truck, or all three? Join me as we explore the supply chain procurement world with George Read. Bryndis Whitson: [00:01:05] So starting in this conversation, you've got so many great experiences from so many different areas of the industry, from working with windows to working with office furniture, to working in oil and gas, to working in technology, to working now in groceries, I think all of your experiences are perfect, you know, as a start, too. So. George Read: [00:01:27] No, I hear you and thank you for inviting me to your show, Bryndis. This is quite a treat. The, I think this is the first podcast, maybe second podcast I've really ever been on. But what did you want to talk about today? Bryndis Whitson: [00:01:43] I think it's really talking about a lot of the fun stories of what a supply chain, and, you know, knowing all of our conversations that we've had over the years of talking about different things, I think this is kind of the perfect opportunity to kind of talk about what makes you like supply chain, what are moments within supply chain that actually make a difference, and what would make other people realize that they love it too? George Read: [00:02:12] Well, that's a good, that's an interesting point. I don't know why anyone would go into supply chain. It's like a mistake. I mean, the supply chain is a wonderful place to be if it's something that you want to do, but I mean, supply chain is always out of step, right? Like it's always out of step with the company. Right. Because in the times when it's easy for the buyers and the supply chain people to get stuff, then the company isn't selling anything because that's a buyer's market, right? And that's when it's good for buyers. Right? And on the flip side, it's, in a seller's market, the company is doing great. They're selling stuff hand over fist. But you know as a buyer you can't get stuff for love nor money. So it's like the worst of times. So I mean why would you want to be in supply chain. But I mean, on the flip side, I know, I know why I got in and I got in it because my first boss in supply chain actually gave a class to a, you know, all of us plebs on the floor. And he was talking about how the supply chain works and about how it's a great, a great web of trying to bring all the materials into one place at one time so that you can build things and that it really is the, it really is what drives things. George Read: [00:03:25] I mean, without stuff, you know. I mean the great line, you know, the bullets and the toilet paper have to arrive at the battlefield at the same time, like without the supply chain people, literally nothing happens. And of course, the problem with supply chain people is they, it's a hard job, you know, they're unsung heroes because when you do your job, nobody knows you exist. I mean, you go to the warehouse and you want to pick up whatever, and there are boxes of that sitting there. Now, you don't know the trials and tribulations the supply chain guy went through to make sure there was a box there when you needed it. But that's, but when the supply chain guy does his job, he's invisible. And so another reason, you know, you don't necessarily want to be in the profession is that when you do your job well, nobody knows your name, like they have no idea who you are. I mean, recently we've had all these supply chain disasters. You know, shortage of toilet paper, shortage of this, shortage of that because the... Bryndis Whitson: [00:04:20] Empty shelves. George Read: [00:04:21] Empty shelves. Exactly. And everybody's all like, oh, supply chain, supply chain. Bryndis Whitson: [00:04:25] Suddenly we know what it is. George Read: [00:04:26] Yeah, exactly. But the only reason, you know what it is, is because they've been doing a quote unquote bad job. Now, have...…
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