A podcast about caves and cave exploration, hosted by Matt Pelsor of the Central Indiana Grotto of the NSS.
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Matt Pelsor is an astronomy geek. He loves observing the stars, planets and other celestial objects that fill our night sky. With his help, you'll discover the magic of the skies, from streaking comets to harvest moons, in the Weekend Sky Report archives.
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Episode 104: Mike Ficco
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Mike Ficco has found Virginia’s deepest cave, and has explored all over the world, including China, Montenegro, Slovenia, and elsewhere. He shared the highlights of his long caving career, which includes chairing the Cave Conservancy of the Virginias (link below). Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress…
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Episode 103: Georgia Schneider
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Georgia Schneider’s caving life has grown quickly since she started caving; taking her to places like New Zealand, France, Mexico, and countless US caves. She talks to Matt about working with the National Parks Service to inventory caves on federal land, and shares the special feeling of returning to places she helped discover. Order a custom cave …
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Episode 102: Bill Torode
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Bill Torode has volunteered at the NSS library for over 50 years, and has mapped hundreds of caves. We talk about being the first person to peer down what came to be known as Surprise Pit in Fern Cave, as well as several other anecdotes from the long-time TAG legend. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptr…
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Episode 101: Peter Johnson
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Pete shares his varied caving life starting in West Virginia's Germany Valley all the way through Grand Canyon exploration, Lechuguilla, Tears of The Turtle (the deepest cave in the US), and shares his experience rewiring the electricity for Carlsbad Caverns National Park. He also shares some big NSS news as a member of the board. Order a custom ca…
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Episode 100: Colin Magee
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Colin Magee is a Canadian caver originally from New Zealand who has been on high-profile Mexico expeditions like Cheve where he participated in the National Geographic Explorer episode “The Deepest Cave.” He discusses the importance of proper SRT and rescue training, as well as his initiative to gather data from the world’s caving clubs. Colin’s we…
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Episode 99: Katarina Kosič Ficco
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Katarina Kosič Ficco is a cave and karst field scientist with the Virginia Department of Conservation and Recreation, Division of Natural Heritage focusing on subterranean biodiversity. She shares her genesis in the world of caves and karst, having grown up in the classical Karst in Slovenia where the term originated. She also talks about discoveri…
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Episode 98: Mike Drake
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Mike Drake heads up exploration of the Studebaker/Wayne Cave system in Indiana’s Garrison Chapel Valley just west of Bloomington. He talks about the genesis and ongoing effort to survey the area’s longest cave. Plus, a bonus talk on Cave Week 2024 in June! Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ Ca…
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Episode 97: Dave Brumbaugh
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Dave Brumbaugh has been a cave guide in several show caves, including back home in Pennsylvania. He has also worked at Carlsbad Caverns and indeed still works for the National Park Service in Yosemite National Park. We talked about his extensive caving career, which included helping the FBI locate and dispose of unexploded ordinances in a Carlsbad …
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Episode 96: Rand Heazlitt Part 2
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Rand Heazlitt is currently leading the continued exploration of Indiana's longest cave, the Binkley Cave system. He shares his perspective as the leader of the group that endured a 2016 flood that threatened the lives of him and his survey group in Binkley Cave. He also talks about current and future exploration of Alabama's Fern Cave, as well as d…
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Episode 95: Rand Heazlitt Part 1
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Rand Heazlitt is currently leading the continued exploration of Indiana's longest cave, the Binkley Cave system. He shares his caving genesis, key moments in his caving history, and the story of the loss of a dear caving friend in part 1 of a two-part conversation. Donate to the NSS! https://members.caves.org/general/custom.asp?page=donate&_gl=1*5p…
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Episode 94: Jessica Jernigan
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Jessica Jernigan is a TAG caver who has been at it for just over a couple of years, but has accomplished a lot in that time. We had a great talk about what caving does to fulfill not only our sense of adventure–indeed defining adventure as we looked at it through the lens of caving, but also how that fulfillment applies to other aspects of life. Do…
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Episode 93: Mike Mansur
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Mike Mansur is the author of The Cave Formation Repair Project. He and his team of volunteers have worked hundreds of hours repairing and restoring cave formations in such high-profile caves such as Carlsbad Caverns, Fort Stanton Cave, and Caverns of Sonora, among many others. Buy the book: https://speleobooks.secure-mall.com/item/The-Cave-Formatio…
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Episode 92: Tray Heinke
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Tray Heinke appeared on an episode of Naked and Afraid, which was a big part of this talk, but he's been an Indiana caver for many years, exploring Indiana's longest cave, Binkley Cave; including a harrowing trip in December of 2016 that trapped him and his companions for more than 36 hours. He tells the story, and shares his adventurous plans for …
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Episode 91: Patti Cummings
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Patti Cummings is the Vice President of the Richard Blenz Nature Conservancy, home of Indiana’s storied Buckner Cave. She talks about her caving history and life, as well as managing the NSS-owned Buckner property, and specifically the home of former owner Dick Blenz, who passed away in 2018. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptres…
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Episode 90: Zeke McKee
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Zeke McKee is a Tennessee caver who has explored and mapped many caves, including Heart of Gould, and Enigma–both of which we talk about at length, including details of a harrowing rescue in 2020. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ Find your local grotto! https://caves.org/committee/i-o/grotto…
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Episode 89: Cagle's Chasm
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Host Matt Pelsor visits Cagle’s Chasm in Tennessee and chats with Chris Lee, Jennifer Young, Jeff Rose, and trip leader Jim Minie. This episode is part two of a three-part series recorded remotely during SERA Cave Faire in early May, 2023. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ Indiana Cave Capers…
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Episode 88: Conley Hole with Justin Huffman & Co
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Host Matt Pelsor returns to Conley Hole in Tennessee for the first time since 2016 and talks with Justin Huffman about his successful effort to discover 500 new caves in a single year. Also along on this trip are Corey Ellis, and Alea Moore. This episode is part one of a three-part series recorded remotely during SERA Cave Faire in early May, 2023.…
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Episode 87: Shawn Williams
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Shawn Williams is a Missouri caver with a storied caving history and personal life. Both are on full display in this extended interview. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ Register for SERA here! May 4-7 https://sera2023.com/ Speleofest! http://speleofest.com/ Indiana Cave Capers: http://www.c…
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Episode 86: Kevin Mulligan
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Kevin Mulligan helped develop the caving ropes course known as The Gauntlet, which has been seen at many caving events. We talk about how it has evolved since its inception, Kevin’s work with The Caving Academy, NCRC, and cave exploration. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ Book The Gauntlet b…
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Episode 85: Kelly Smallwood
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Kelly Smallwood lives in the heart of TAG, and has been involved in many projects, including surveying for the Jack Daniels Distillery. She shares a lot about her caving life, including surviving a tough cancer diagnosis in 2017. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ Check out Kelly’s YouTube cha…
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Episode 84: Joel Despain
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Joel Despain is a California caver, the new co-editor of the NSS News, and has made caving a big part of his professional life. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ Pre-register for SERA here! May 4-7 https://sera2023.com/ Find your local grotto! https://caves.org/committee/i-o/grottos/new_grott…
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Episode 83: Miki Manning
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Miki Manning is a caver from TAG who is heavily involved with fundraising for the NSS. We talk about her active caving life, as well as specific ways to financially support the efforts of the NSS. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ More on the Carter Caves State Resort Park Winter Adventure We…
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Episode 82: Remembering Glenn Lemasters
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Indiana caver and gifted cave map cartographer Glenn Lemasters died on Tuesday, December 13th, 2022 at the age of 70.
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Episode 81: Chad McCain
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Chad McCain is a caver based in St. Louis, Missouri. He shares a number of great exploration stories, and a few harrowing tales of what can happen when things go wrong. RIP Marion O. Smith AKA: The GOAT 1942-2022 Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ More on the Carter Caves State Resort Park Win…
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Episode 80: Remembering Tom Rea
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Former NSS President Tom Rea passed away on Saturday. He was 88.
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Episode 79: Fenn Spencer
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Fenn Spencer is a lifelong legacy TAG caver. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ More on the Carter Caves State Resort Park Winter Adventure Weekend: https://www.winteradventureweekend.com/ Find your local grotto! https://caves.org/committee/i-o/grottos/new_grotto_page-v2.shtml…
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Episode 78: Marion Akers PART 2
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Marion Akers is an Indiana-based caver and cave cartographer involved in exploration in TAG, Indiana, and Mexico. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ More on the Carter Caves State Resort Park Winter Adventure Weekend: https://www.winteradventureweekend.com/ Find your local grotto! https://cave…
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Episode 77: Marion Akers PART 1
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Marion Akers is an Indiana-based caver and cave cartographer involved in exploration in TAG, Indiana, and Mexico. Order a custom cave suit from our sponsor, Sophireaptress! https://www.sophireaptress.com/ More on the Carter Caves State Resort Park Winter Adventure Weekend: https://www.winteradventureweekend.com/ Find your local grotto! https://cave…
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Episode 76: Mark Dickey
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Mark Dickey is an NCRC instructor and helped create a new comprehensive advanced alpine SRT caving course called Caving Academy, which will hold its first class September 10th through 16th in Budapest. Learn more about Caving Academy! https://cavingacademy.org/ Pre-register for Indiana Cave Capers HERE: http://www.cigcaves.com/indiana-cave-capers/a…
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Episode 75: Aidan Campbell
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Aidan Campbell is a land manager with the SCCi, and talks about that role and the passion he has for cave conservation. He talks about his caving genesis, and the various that have led him to and through his caving life. Join SCCi or find more info HERE: https://www.saveyourcaves.org/ Pre-register for Indiana Cave Capers HERE: http://www.cigcaves.c…
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Episode 74: Gretchen Baker
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Gretchen Baker is the current national coordinator for the National Cave Rescue Commission, but that barely scratches the surface of her credibility. We talk about her past and present work for the National Park Service, and her exploration efforts across the globe. The Caving Podcast is sponsored by https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 any full-priced o…
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Episode 73: The people behind the IMAX film "Ancient Caves"
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"Ancient Caves" was released for IMAX 3D and IMAX Dome theaters just days into the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic, but thankfully the cycle for IMAX type educational films is years long, and this film could still be coming to a theater near you! I was fortunate to talk to director Jonathan Bird about making the film, and cave diver Todd Kelly who t…
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Episode 72: Thomas Hawkins
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Thomas Hawkins has caved all over the world, but got started in one of the best places on Earth–West Virginia’s Germany Valley. He talks about caving via botany in Central America, salt caves in Chile, caving with some of my Hoosier friends in Mexico, and being part of survey efforts in a classic TAG cave. The Caving Podcast is sponsored by https:/…
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Episode 71: Holly McClintock
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Holly McClintock has chaired the Louisville Grotto since 2012. She is an active member of the Cave Research Foundation, Central Kentucky Karst Coalition, SCCi, KSS, and of course the NSS. She assists with management of the grotto’s own 126 acre Lone Star Preserve. She manages the SCCi Daleo Preserve, home of the Daleo entrance to Roppel Cave, where…
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Episode 70: Reilly Blackwell
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Reilly Blackwell has done an awful lot of caving since she first got serious about it in 2016. Since then she has worked for the NSS, been on several expeditions to Mexico, and served in various roles on several other projects throughout the country. The Caving Podcast is sponsored by https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 any full-priced order over $300 w…
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Episode 69: Matt Pelsor
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Matt Pelsor has produced and hosted the Caving Podcast since July of 2016. He is a radio personality and voiceover actor from Indianapolis. In this episode, he and renowned caver Hazel Barton share a conversation about caving. Follow him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattpelsorradio/ The Caving Podcast is sponsored by https://elspeleo.com…
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Episode 68: Kirsten Alvey-Mudd
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Kirsten Alvey-Mudd is the executive director of the Missouri Bat Census https://www.facebook.com/MissouriBatCensus/ The Caving Podcast is sponsored by https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 any full-priced order over $300 with promo code PODCAST Find your local grotto! https://caves.org/committee/i-o/grottos/new_grotto_page-v2.shtml…
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Episode 67: Devra Heyer
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Devra Heyer is the Education Division Chief of the National Speleological Society. The Caving Podcast is sponsored by https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 any full-priced order over $300 with promo code PODCAST Find your local grotto! https://caves.org/committee/i-o/grottos/new_grotto_page-v2.shtml
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Episode 66: Matthew Lachniet
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Matthew Lachniet is a paleoclimatologist who studies cave formations to get a record of past climate history. The Caving Podcast is sponsored by https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 any full-priced order over $300 with promo code PODCAST Find your local grotto! https://caves.org/committee/i-o/grottos/new_grotto_page-v2.shtml…
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Episode 65: Indiana Cave Capers 2021
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This month is a series of impromptu interviews conducted at Indiana Cave Capers, which is an annual event put on by the Central Indiana Grotto. The Caving Podcast is sponsored by https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 any full-priced order over $300 with promo code PODCAST Find your local grotto! https://caves.org/committee/i-o/grottos/new_grotto_page-v2.s…
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Episode 64: Crash Kennedy
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Jim “Crash” Kennedy has been passionate about caves, caving, and bats for most of his life. He reveals the unfortunate incident that earned him his nickname, discusses gating caves, working with Bat Conservation International, chairing the National Cave and Karst Management Symposium, and the 2025 convention in a delightful hour of conversation. Fi…
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Episode 63: Ceth Parker
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Ceth Parker is a California-based caver who has done impressive research on iron caves in Brazil, which makes this podcast host re-think how most caves are formed. He has also designed experiments intended for the International Space Station and has tested them with parabolic flights aboard the so-called ‘Vomit Comet.” All of which are discussed in…
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Episode 62: George Veni
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George Veni is the executive Director of the National Cave and Karst Research Institute (http://nckri.org/), and the president of the International Union of Speleology (UIS), who is responsible for the International Year of Caves and Karst (http://iyck2021.org/). The Caving Podcast is sponsored by https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 any full-priced orde…
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Episode 61: Remembering Dale Chase
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Canadian (former Hoosier) Dale Chase passed away on Monday, 5/3/21. He was a guest of the podcast on February 2018 after he wrote a book on his colorful caving life and shared several excerpts for this episode. You can buy his book here: http://www.blurb.ca/b/8493203-journey-to-the-center-of-the-earth…
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Episode 60: Martin Hoff
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UK caver Martin Hoff has enjoyed lots of significant European caves throughout his storied association with caving. The Caving Podcast is sponsored by https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 any full-priced order over $300 with promo code PODCAST Register for the NSS “Virtual Topics in Cave Rescue” at this link: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZEp…
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Episode 59: Carol Vesely
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Carol Vesely is a California caver who has been caving all over the world. She enthusiastically shares a small fraction of her caving life in this interview. Support our sponsor! https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 off any light, or any regularly-priced order over $300 with the promo code "PODCAST" at checkout. Sign up for the NSS series “Virtual Topics…
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Episode 58: Steven Johnson & Marianne Russo (Western Cave Conservancy
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Steven Johnson and Marianne Russo are the President and Secretary (respectively) of the Western Cave Conservancy. Visit their website here to support and learn more about their efforts: https://www.westerncaves.org/ Support our sponsor! https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 off any light, or any regularly-priced order over $300 with the promo code "PODCAS…
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Episode 57: Mark Wenner
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Mark Wenner is a caver and cave diver in the TAG area, but has also done a lot in Mammoth and elsewhere. Support our sponsor! https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 off any light, or any regularly-priced order over $300 with the promo code "PODCAST" at checkout. Sign up for the NSS series “Virtual Topics in Cave Rescue” here: https://us02web.zoom.us/meetin…
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Episode 56: Bill Steele
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We’re kicking off 2021 with a caving legend. Bill Steele joins us to talk about his early days in caving, plus leading expeditions to Huautla and other deep caves in Mexico. Order Bill’s book from the NSS Bookstore: https://members.caves.org/store/viewproduct.aspx?id=11330034 Support our sponsor! https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 off any light, or any…
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Episode 55: Chrissy Richards
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Caver and cave diver Chrissy Richards has done some incredible work. This hour we talk about exploration in Florida, TAG, Mexico, and Hawaii. Also, a few things to consider if you want to get into cave diving. Support our sponsor! https://elspeleo.com/ Save $20 off any light, or any regularly-priced order over $300 with the promo code "PODCAST" at …
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