E33: The Untold History of Nuclear Energy with Packy McCormick and Julia DeWahl

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

Today on Upstream we’re dropping a special episode of Age of Miracles which dives into the rise and fall of nuclear power in the 20th century, and what we can learn about pushing nuclear into the 21st century.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Episode Preview

(00:50) Erik introduces Age of Miracles

(03:03) Two narratives of nuclear energy

(06:43) Nuclear’s early history and rise

(12:26) The start of the fall

(15:20) Sponsors: Shopify | Oracle

(23:08) Five key factors that led to nuclear’s decline

(23:30) Factor #1: the AEC

(29:00) Factor #2: good old-fashioned economics

(30:30) Sponsor: Shopify

(34:21) Factor #3: regulation

(46:25) Factor #4: the environmentalists

(54:05) Factor #5: the nuclear disasters

(57:53) Recap of the historical lessons

(1:02:49) Wrap

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