296. From Crying Alone in Bangalore to Panic Attacks at Gamescom with Joseph Kim, CEO of LILA Games

Deconstructor of Fun

From crying alone in Bangalore to panic attacks at Gamescom, this is a brutally real look at what it actually costs to chase a vision.

Mishka Katkoff (Deconstructor of Fun) and Joseph Kim (Lila Games) reunite for the rawest, most honest founder-to-founder conversation you’ll hear this year. They dive deep into the sacrifices, suffering, and stress of building companies from scratch, away from the LinkedIn highlight reels.

5:00 – Suffering vs. Sacrifice: Is Work Just Avoidance?

10:45 – Why Founders Trade Family for Vision

15:30 – Would You Let Your Kids Follow Your Path?

20:00 – Lessons from Building (and Breaking) a Startup

27:30 – The #1 Mistake Founders Make: The Team

31:50 – Fractional Work, Focus, and Saying No

36:30 – Redefining Success Without Losing Yourself

41:00 – What a Billion-Dollar Exit Really Means

47:15 – How We’ll Judge Ourselves on Our Deathbeds

52:00 – Life in Phases: When to Grind, When to Let Go

56:00 – AI, Ambition, and the New Have vs. Have-Nots

1:02:00 – The Hidden Cost: Panic Attacks, Crying, and Total Burnout

1:12:00 – What’s Next for Mishka and Joe