Liverpool slipping. Manchester United Rising, Manchester City Lurking and the rest of the Premier League Round 17 round up.

CFCP - An English Premier League Podcast

Liverpool sputtering verses Southampton

United making a statement verse Aston Villa

Manchester City reclaiming their credentials verses a dying Chelsea.

Arsenal winning 3 on the bounce

Spurs out classing Leeds

Plus a massive discussion on the nature of football and it's light and darkness. The idea of playing well and losing verses playing shit at winning... Football as philosophy.

And the rest of the Premier League football round up.

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