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The Phil Bak Podcast takes you deep into the worlds of economics, investing and entrepreneurship as Phil talks to the innovators who challenge conventional thinking and exploring the narratives that are driving market moves.
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Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative investments to add value in their investment portfolios.
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Preparing financial advisors for the monetary revolution and how it changes financial planning. The show allows advisors of all knowledge levels to come on and learn and ask questions educating everyone in the process.
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In this episode, Shana talks with alternative investment strategist Tony Davidow from Franklin Templeton about the value of alternative investments. Tony shares stories from his career and explains how investments beyond traditional stocks and bonds—like private credit and real estate—can build wealth and support personal goals. We also discuss new…
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Shana sits down with Vince Lorusso, President & CEO of Clough Capital Partners L.P., who shares how he went from a family of lawyers to becoming a finance professional. He talks about his passion for finance, transitioning from hedge funds to exchange-traded funds (ETFs), and the benefits of ETF strategies like transparency and tax savings. Vince a…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Phil is joined by friend of the show Ben Hunt for his fourth appearance on the podcast. Ben Hunt holds a PhD in Political Science from Harvard University, is the co-founder and CIO of Epsilon Theory, and co-founder of Second Foundation Partners. Ben and Phil discuss narratives driving flows in markets, the incentivization of risk-taking by financia…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Richard Adler was a co-founder and former Managing Director of EII Capital Management, an investment advisory firm for over 38 years managing REIT portfolios beginning in 1986. He has sat on the advisory board of Armada since its founding, and is a storied entrepreneur and business leader. Richard joins Phil to discuss REITs, investment, and reflec…
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Cliff Asness is the founder, Managing Principal and Chief Investment Officer at AQR Capital Management. Phil joins Cliff at his AQR office to chat about market concentration, value investing, and the market environment as a whole. Through the conversation, Cliff shares a wealth of knowledge and perspectives from his 30+ years of experience in the a…
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Michael Antonelli is a market strategist at Baird Private Wealth Management and author of the "Bull and Baird" blog. In a world where there is no shortage of anxiety inducing doomsday narratives, Michael stands out by being a bullish optimist. Michael makes the case for communicating about the market using common language, using a data driven appro…
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Jared Dillian, author and investment strategist, joins the Phil Bak podcast. He is the author of books such as No Worries: How to live a stress-free financial life, and Street Freak: A Memoir of Money and Madness. Jared and Phil discuss financial freedom, hard work, rules for success, and taking control over your financial outcomes.…
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Mike Green, CFA, is the Portfolio Manager and Chief Strategist at Simplify Asset Management. Mike and Phil discuss the over-emphasis of indexing, passive investment, and low fee competition causing potential hazards in investing. This includes large cap companies receiving the bulk of capital, reduced reward for conducting fundamental analysis, and…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Phil sits down with Randall Zisler to discuss real estate and REITs. Randall is the co-founder of Zisler Capital Associates and a highly respected academic with a number of works on real estate investing, economics, and finance. In his conversation with Phil, he shares a wealth of knowledge pertaining to real estate valuations, REITs, public vs pri…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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In this episode, Matt Golliher, a financial advisor at Vista Investment Partners. He’s a Bitcoin advocate and recently helped pivot Vista to be more bitcoin-focused as he and the team view bitcoin as being a big part of financial advice and guidance into the future. We discuss: How did you become interested in bitcoin? What’s the origin story? How …
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Ryan Kirlin is the President of Alpha Architect. Ryan’s role is working with financial advisors to analyze and create affordable, tax-efficient, investment portfolios in partnership with Alpha Architect and our investment strategies. Alpha Architect empowers investors Through Education and is focused on quantitative investing strategies. Ryan and I…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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In this reposted podcast, Phil sits down with Meb Faber and explains his mission and strategy in the real estate space. This conversation is the "why" behind what Phil does on the day to day, trying to create unique value within the real estate investment market. This episode is censored when Phil or Meb directly mention particular funds by name.…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Alright, today I’m joined by TJ Van Gerven, who is a fee-only financial planner and a CFP®. TJ and I launched their RIAs at about the same time in 2018, and have connected lots since then. TJ works with Equity Compensated Professionals at his firm, Modern Wealth Builders. We discuss RIA ownership and bitcoin in this episode. What has been the bigge…
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Alright, in this episode I’m joined by Phil Bak CEO, Armada ETF Advisors. Phil has been in the ETF industry for over 15 years. He’s a great Twitter follow for insights and laughs – weekends are for memes are one of my personal favorites. Phil’s done a ton in his career and he’s had some opinions on bitcoin over time and I want to unpack those as we…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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In this episode, I'm joined by Kane McGukin. Kane is a data strategist at Arkos Global Advisors. He has a unique educational background with finance and business administration paired with computer science. He hosts the Navigating Bitcoin's Noise podcast and writes a substack called The Mesh Point. He has had some incredible conversations and thoug…
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Phil revisits his discussion with David Kotok (Cofounder, Cumberland Advisors) recorded in early 2020. David and Phil discuss entrepreneurship, surviving difficult market conditions, and the benefits of studying history and math. David reflects on his career and shares his experiences and insights from decades spent in the industry.…
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In this episode, I’m joined by long-time advisor friend Mike Troxell. Mike owns Modern Financial Planning – he is a financial planner and CPA- he is a 2x Investopedia top 100 advisor. Mike works with a lot of individuals and families in the technology space with complex tax questions. Mike is not pro/anti bitcoin - but brings a healthy skepticism t…
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Welcome to Banrion Capital Management’s What’s the Alternative Podcast! Join host Shana Orczyk Sissel, the “Queen of Alternatives” Founder & CEO of Banrion Capital Management, as she interviews leaders in the alternative investment space. Learn more about their firms, their passions and about the many different ways investors can use alternative in…
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Alright welcome to CFPs that Stack – I’m joined by someone that most advisors don’t need an introduction to Thomas Kopelman. For those living under a rock – Thomas is the co-founder of AllStreet Wealth – an Investopedia top 100 advisor – Social Media Marketing Guru – host of The Long Game Podcast and involved with www.wealth.com a estate planning s…
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In this episode, we are joined by Jacob Phelps who is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™. Jacob moved from Indiana to Colorado and comes at bitcoin from the technology lense vs. monetary properties. This leads to a deeper dive into what a future service offering might look like from financial advisors. His journey to bitcoin What opportunities are ther…
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In this episode, we are joined by Andy Flattery. Andy is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and Owner of Simple Wealth Planning in North Kansas City, MO. He specializes in advising young and affluent families in the earlier stages of wealth building. Previously, Andy was a Financial Advisor at two of the largest Financial institutions in North America,…
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In the inaugural episode, Trent and Isaiah recap what the show is designed to be and why financial advisors should care about bitcoin. They share what has them excited today, what's www.adviceonbitcoin.com, and some favorite resources. Check out Advice on Bitcoin to get 8 hours of CFP® CE credits and learn about bitcoin Articles referenced in the s…
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Catherine Wood and Tom Staudt from Ark Invest join Phil to talk about the early days of Ark Invest and how they built their business. Cathie tells the story of her eureka moment when she had the idea for disrupting the asset management industry. Tom tells us how he met Cathie and ultimately got an offer letter filled with exclamation points!!! Cath…
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