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A podcast about developer tools and the people who make them. Join us as we embark on a journey to explore modern developer tooling and interview the people who make it possible. We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, A ...
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IEEE Spectrum reports on the return to physical buttons and dials, Microsoft released GenAIScript, iFixit’s Elizabeth Chamberlain announces a big Right to Repair win, Daniela Baron reimagines technical interviews & John O’Nolan, shares some thoughts on open source governance and how to create trust within technology, communities, and media View the…
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Nate Wienert - Tamagui, One Stack, Zero, and Universal Apps
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This week Nate Wienert stop by for a second appearance. Nate is the creator of Tamagui, a framework for building universal apps with React Native. That work led him to create One Stack, a framework for building local first universal apps with React Native. https://onestack.dev/ https://x.com/one__js https://x.com/natebirdman Apply to sponsor the po…
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Wine Web and a whole lot of Whatnot (Friends)
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We join the Whiskey Web and Whatnot podcast live from the hallway track at All Things Open 2024. Topics include: Chianti, content creation, open source, fake jobs, cancel culture, Silicon Valley (ding), frontend frustrations, the Roman empire & more. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 10 minutes on this episode because they made the ads d…
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Rails is having a moment (again) (Interview)
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(Includes expletives) David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), creator of Ruby on Rails and co-owner of 37signals, joined the show to discuss this Rails moment and renewed excitement for Rails. We discuss hard opinions, developers being cooked too long in the JavaScript soup, finding developer joy, the pros and cons of the BDFL, the ongoing WordPress drama …
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Daniel Quinn weighs in on how to develop with Docker The Right Way, Mitchell Hashimoto says Ghostty will be publicly released this coming December, Kevin Li writes about the value of learning how to learn, The Browser Company moves on from Arc & the React Native team ships its new architecture. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ me…
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Do you use cloud development environments? Do you use dev containers? This week we talk to Ivan Burazin, a co-founder of Daytona, a dev environment manager and AI developer. Ivan has been working on this problem for almost two decades now, originally for PHPAnywhere/CodeAnywhere, but now for Daytona. Daytona is a self-hosted and secure open source …
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Ten years of freeCodeCamp (Friends)
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At the tail end of 2019, we got together with Quincy Larson to celebrate ten years of Changelog & five years of freeCodeCamp by recording back-to-back episodes on each other’s pods. Can you believe it’s now five years later and we’re all still here doing our thing?! Let’s learn what Quincy and the amazing community at freeCodeCamp have been up to! …
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Elasticsearch is open source, again (Interview)
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Shay Banon, the creator of Elasticsearch, joins us to discuss pulling off a reverse rug pull. Yes, Elasticsearch is open source, again! We discuss the complexities surrounding open source licensing and what made Elastic change their license, the implications of trademark law, the personal and business impact of moving away from open source, and ult…
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Will Crichton wishes some naming conventions would die already, GitHub user brjsp noticed that Bitwarden’s new SDK dependency isn’t open source, Joaquim Rocha details his forking best practices, Sophie Koonin explains why you should go to conferences & Mike Hoye puts WordPress on SQLite. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members g…
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Erez Zukerman - ZSA, ErgoDox, and the Future of Keyboards
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This week we have the unique opportunity to talk to Erez Zukerman, the founder and CEO of ZSA, a company that makes open source keyboards. ErgoDox is a split keyboard that is based on open source work. Come with use as we discuss the history of ErgoDox, the challenges of making a keyboard, and all the cool products they ship. https://www.zsa.io/ ht…
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You'll rent chips and be happy (Friends)
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Zac Smith left his role leading Equinix Metal in June of 2023. Since then, he’s been thinking deeply about the present and potential future of data centers, OEMs, chip makers & more. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 11 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Depl…
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Lessons from 10k hours of programming (Remastered) (Interview)
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This week we’re going back in time to one of our top performing shows of all time where we talk with Matt Rickard about his blog post Reflections on 10,000 Hours of Programming. These reflections are about deliberately writing code for 10,000 hours. Most don’t apply to beginners. He was clear to mention that these reflections are purely about codin…
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Nicholas Bloom finds WFH is powering a productivity boom, Matt Mullenweg has decided that WP Engine’s beatings will continue until morale improves, Levels.fyi has added a salary heat map, Gareth Edwards highlights just how fragile the Internet really is & Artem Zakirullin details how cognitive load is what really matters in software development. Vi…
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This week we got the opportunity to talk to Kris Rasmussen, the CTO of Figma. We talked about Figma's history, the evolution of Figma, and what they see as the future of designer/developer tools. We dig deep on what they're doing with Dev Mode and ponder how AI might change the way we work. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristopherrasmussen/ https://x…
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The indispensable cog (Friends)
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Go Time co-host, Johnny Boursiquot, joins Adam & Jerod to discuss not making the (first) cut, applying Founder Mode, being a cog (or not), realizing that companies are posting fake engineering jobs & the (maybe) imminent demise of the .io TLD. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 10 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappea…
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The Moneyball approach (Interview)
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John Nunemaker joins us to share his new thesis for acquiring Rails based SaaS apps. He’s early days on his next big thing called Very Good Software and recently acquired Fireside, a podcast hosting service started by Dan Benjamin. This comes after many years since John’s acquisition of a lifetime of Speakerdeck to GitHub, which laid the foundation…
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A bias against hyperlinking has developed on platforms, GitHub engineering continues to evolve Issues, Evan You announces VoidZero, some companies are only pretend hiring & Klaas van Schelven asks: does it scale (down)? View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members support our work, get closer to the metal, and make the ads disappear.…
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Developer (un)happiness (Friends)
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Abi Noda, co-founder and CEO at DX, joins the show to talk through data shared from the Stack Overflow 2024 Developer Survey, why devs are really unhappy, and what they’re doing at DX to help orgs and teams to understand the metrics behind their developer’s happiness and productivity. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 5 minutes at…
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Free-threaded Python (Interview)
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Jerod is joined by the co-hosts of core.py , Pablo Galindo & Łukasz Langa, a podcast about Python internals by people who work on Python internals. Python 3.13 is right around the corner, which means the Global Interpeter Lock (GIL) is now experimentally optional! This is a huge deal as Python is finally free-threaded. There’s more to discuss, of c…
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Display custom maps on your website for free (News)
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OpenFreeMap puts OpenStreetMap data on your website for free, Fatih Arslan builds a Dieter Rams inspired iPhone dock, Joseph Gentle thinks the Rust programming language feels like a first-gen product & the web dev community is debating the viability of Web Components once again. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 2 min…
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Nathan Manceaux-Panot - Retcon - Rewriting Git History made Simple
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This week we have Nathan Manceaux-Panot, the creator of Retcon, a git client. Retcon is a git client that helps you rewrite git history with remarkable ease. You can drag and drop commits to create new commits, undo, redo, and more. https://cykele.ro/ https://mas.to/@Cykelero https://github.com/Cykelero https://indieapps.space/@Retcon https://retco…
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The wrong place to slap a person (Friends)
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Nick Nisi joins Adam and Jerod to talk about Karaoke, ARC and the business model of web browsers, this WordPress drama, and an epic bonus for Changelog ++ subscribers. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 61 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Assembly AI – Turn voice data into summaries with Assemb…
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Leveling up JavaScript with Deno 2 (Interview)
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Jerod is joined by Ryan Dahl to discuss his second take on leveling up JavaScript developers all around the world. Jerod asks Ryan why not try to fix or fork Node instead of starting fresh, how Deno (the open source project) can avoid the all too common rug pull (not cool) scenario, what’s new in Deno 2 & their pragmatic decision to support npm, th…
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Mahmoud Mousa releases Sidekick, a tool for hosting side projects on a cheap VPS, Ryan Dahl, has had enough of Oracle bogarting “JavaScript” but not even using it, Thomas Rampelberg’s kty is a sweet terminal for Kubernetes, Redis users are considering alternatives after their relicense & a bunch of smart JS folks wrote up nine Node.js pillars. View…
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Guido Rosso - Rive, The Graphics Format of the Future
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Join us as we talk to Guido Rosso, a co-founder of Rive a new graphics format made for interactive mediums. Guido has a storied career in animation and is building the next generation of graphics formats for the web with his twin brother, Luigi. Rive is the culmination of that experience that lets you create interactive graphics in a way that is fa…
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Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
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Gerhard Lazu joins us for Kaizen 16! Our Pipe Dream™️ is becoming a reality, our custom feeds are shipping, our deploys are rolling out faster & our tooling is getting just right. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 10 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Assembly AI – Turn voice data into summaries…
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The best, worst codebase (Interview)
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Jimmy Miller talks to us about his experience with a legacy codebase at his first job as a programmer. The codebase was massive, with hundreds of thousands of lines of C# and Visual Basic, and a database with over 1,000 columns. Let’s just say Jimmy got into some stuff. There’s even a Gilfoyle involved. This episode is all about his adventures whil…
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Scott Chacon writes up his insider take on GitHub’s success, Sentry wants other companies to take the Open Source Pledge, Benj Edwards used AI to reproduce his late father’s handwriting, Dave Kiss explains the current hype that PHP is getting & Taylor Otwell raises $57 million series A from Accel. View the newsletter Join the discussion Changelog++…
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David Mytton - Console.dev, ArcJet - Enhancing Application Security
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This week we have David Mytton, a co-founder of console.dev, and a co-founder of ArcJet. At console.dev, David is always looking for ways to improve the developer experience. With ArcJet, David is try to make it easier for developers to build secure applications. https://davidmytton.blog/ Co-founder of https://console.dev/ https://x.com/davidmytton…
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Reverse rug pull, so cool? (Friends)
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Jerod & Adam share our Zulip first impressions, react to Elasticsearch going open source (again), discuss Christian Hollinger’s blog post on why he still self-hosts & answer a listener question: how do we produce podcasts? Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 22 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: S…
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Building customizable ergonomic keyboards (Interview)
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Erez Zukerman shares the story of launching the ErgoDox EZ on Indiegogo (May 2015), what it takes to create customizable ergonomic keyboards, the benefits of split keyboards and custom key layouts, repairability and longevity, community engagement, and the attention to detail required in everything they create. We talk through their keyboard lineup…
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Is Linux collapsing under its own weight? (News)
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A Rust for Linux developer resigns amidst rising tension in the Linux community, Bret Victor shows off what he’s been working on for years, Rachel (by the bay) laments how useless “SRE” has become as a role, Doug Turnbull makes the case for hiring junior devs & Baldur Bjarnason says the LLM honeymoon phase is about to end. View the newsletter Join …
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Predrag Gruevski - Trustfall, Cargo Semver Checks, and the Future of Query-Based Tools
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This week we have Predrag Gruevski to discuss TrustFall, a new query-based tool for querying anything. Trustfall makes it simple to turn anything into queryable data. Predrag used that to create cargo-semver-checks, a tool that checks your Rust packages for semantic versioning compliance. https://x.com/PredragGruevski https://predr.ag/ https://gith…
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Starbucks DVD peddlers (Friends)
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Emily Freeman joins the show alongside our Ship It co-host, Justin Garrison! We hear Emily’s burnout story & learn how she and Forrest Brazeal are putting tech-focused influencers on tap. But first: area code turf wars, bad movie reboots & buying used DVDs… at Starbucks?! Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 12 minutes on this episode becau…
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Open source threaded team chat?! (Interview)
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We’re joined by Alya Abbott from Zulip, the open source, organized, threaded, team chat for distributed teams of all sizes. We talk about Zulip’s origins, how it’s open source, the way it’s led, no VC funding, what makes it different/better, how you can self-host it or use their cloud, moving to Zulip, contributing and being a part of the community…
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The Cursor AI code editor raises $60 million, RedMonk’s Rachel Stephens tries to determine if rug pulls are worth it, Caleb Porzio details how he made $1 million on GitHub Sponsors, Elastic founder Shay Banon announces that Elasticsearch is open source (again) & Tomas Stropus writes about the art of finishing. View the newsletter Join the discussio…
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Travis Arnold - Omnidoc, Restyle, JSXUI
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This week we talk to Travis Arnold, a developer who is working on a new tool to make managing typescript documentation easier. Omnidoc is a tool that allows you to build a fully customized documentation solution, and the examples are event type checked. We also talk about his other projects, Restyle, JSX UI, and the future of React. https://x.com/s…
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#define: piggyback (Friends)
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What happens when you take two #define champs (Taylor Troesh, Thomas Eckert), a grizzled veteran (Adam Stacoviak), a british bard (Mat Ryer), a PhD (Carol Lee) & you pit them against each other in a game of fake tech definitions?! There’s only one way to find out… Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 27 minutes at the end of this epi…
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Reinventing Kafka on object storage (Interview)
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Ryan Worl, Co-founder and CTO at WarpStream, joins us to talk about the world of Kafka and data streaming and how WarpStream redesigned the idea of Kafka to run in modern cloud environments directly on top of object storage. Last year they posted a blog titled, “Kafka is dead, long live Kafka” that hit the top of Hacker News to put WarpStream on th…
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Waymo cars make bad neighbors, Leonardo Creed pulls together wisdom from Linus Torvalds & the Art of Unix Programming to conclude what good programmers worry about, Max Schmitt makes the argument that toast notifications create a bad user experience, ChartDB is a web-based database diagramming editor, Simon Tatham makes a list of code review anti-p…
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Jordan Harband - Npm Ecosystem, HeroDevs
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This week we're joined by Jordan Harband, a pillar of the npm ecosystem. Jordan maintains a staggering amount of open source projects that are used by millions of developers. Jordan has some opinions that go against the mainstream when it comes to legacy support. Join us as we try to understand his perspective. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljharb/ h…
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The great escape room (Friends)
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Adam & Jerod catch up with our ol’ friend, Suz Hinton! It’s been a couple years since Suz was a regular on JS Party. Since then, she moved back to Australia, earned a degree in cyber security & won a fidget spinner from the NSA… but that’s not all! Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 10 minutes on this episode because they made the ads dis…
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Flavors of Ship It! (Interview)
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Flavors of Ship It on The Changelog — if you’re not subscribed to Ship It yet, do so at shipit.show or by searching for “Ship it” wherever you listen to podcasts. Every week Justin Garrison and Autumn Nash explore everything that happens after git push — and today’s flavors include running infrastructure in space, managing millions of machines at M…
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Chris Stjernlöf got nerd-sniped and ended up writing down his practices of reliable software design, Ben Visness has had enough with the npm community’s propensity to pull in micro-libraries to suit every need, “Stay SaaSy” makes three metaphors for problem solving categories, Troy Hunt takes us inside the “3 billion people” National Public Data br…
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Brandon Roberts - Angular, Front-End Frameworks, and OpenSauced
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On this week's episode, we're excited to have Brandon Roberts on the show. Brandon is a software engineer at Open Sauced, a company that helps other companies build better open source software. He's also a creator of Analog, an full stack framework for building Angular apps. https://brandonroberts.dev/ https://github.com/brandonroberts https://www.…
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The Winamp era (Friends)
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You won’t believe the bizarre secrets Jordan Eldredge found investigating corrupt Winamp skins (#7 will shock you)! You also won’t believe how long we can wax nostalgic about the era of Napster, Aladdin & Pearl Jam. Join the discussion Changelog++ members get a bonus 5 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Paragon –…
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Why we need Ladybird (Interview)
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Andreas Kling and Chris Wanstrath have joined forces to form a non-profit called Ladybird Browser Initiative to manage the newly forked Ladybird browser. We discuss what it’s going to take to get to alpha, the why behind Ladybird, avoiding incentives other than those of the users, their plans for incremental adoption of Swift as the successor langu…
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Jimmy Miller tells us about the best, worst codebase he’s ever seen, The Phylum Research Team follows up on the great npm garbage patch, Zach Leatherman logs his findings on sneaky serverless costs, David Cain wants you to go on quests instead of goals & Ashley Janssen gives us szeven rules for effective meeting culture. View the newsletter Join th…
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Richard Feldman - Zed, Roc Lang - Elm but for everywhere
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This week we're joined by Richard Feldman, the author of Roc lang, a futuristic functional programming language. Richard is a software engineer at Zed, a company that making a new code editor that's built on the Rust programming language and integrates AI. We talk about all the crazy feature that Roc lang has, and how it might change the way you wr…
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Picking a database should be simple (Friends)
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Database aficionado, Ben Johnson, joins Jerod to answer the age ol’ question: which database should you use? Answering that isn’t always easy, which means it’s time to play the “It Depends” jingle & weigh (some of) the options. Join the discussion Changelog++ members save 9 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sp…
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