What Happened Next: A Podcast About Newish Books podcast

Dedicating this episode to all the therapists and gays that heal us! This week is all about the VMAs and psychotic moms. However, before all that I pay my respects to the late Giorgio Armani. Mr. Armani was an iconic (and insanely rich) figure in fashion that will live on for generations to come. After that I highlight my new favorite viral clip of two college footballers in a homoerotic embrace. If this is sports from now on, then maybe I will watch the Super Bowl! Then I discuss this years VMAs which was basically the Sabrina Carpenter variety hour. Next up is my new favorite Netflix documentary, Unknown Number: The High School Catfish. This b!tch, Kendra, sure does know how to drag out an elaborate cyberstalking! Finally, I touch on the titillating new teaser trailer for Emerald Fennell's Wuthering Heights. So good!!! Listen now <3…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Guy Vanderhaeghe 25:11

vor 4 Tagen25:11

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My guest on this episode is Guy Vanderhaeghe. Guy is a three-time winner of the Governor’s-General Award for his collections of short stories, Man Descending and Daddy Lenin, and for his novel, The Englishman’s Boy, which was also shortlisted for the Giller Prize and The International Dublin Literary Award. His novel The Last Crossing was a winner of the CBC’s Canada Reads Competition. He has also received the Timothy Findley Prize, the Harbourfront Literary Prize, and the Cheryl and Henry Kloppenburg Prize, all given for a body of work. Guy’s most recent novel, August into Winter, won the Saskatchewan Book Award for Fiction and the Glengarry Book Award and was shortlisted for the Writers’ Trust Atwood Gibson Fiction Prize. His most recent book, the essay collection Because Someone Asked Me To , was published in 2024 by Thistledown Press. That book won Book of the Year and the Non-Fiction Award at the 2025 Saskatchewan Book Awards. Shelagh Rogers, former host of the CBC’s “The Next Chapter”, said that “reading this volume, I felt all my circuitry light up like a flash of fireflies, as Nadine Gordimer would say. I’m just so glad somebody asked him to.” Guy and I talk about some critical advice he got from author Margaret Laurence when he first started as a writer, the enormous shifts that have happened in the Canadian literary scene since those early days, and why his most recent novel might be his last. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Peter Counter 27:50

vor 11 Tagen27:50

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My guest on this episode is Peter Counter. Peter is an author and culture critic whose first book was the essay collection Be Scared of Everything, and his non-fiction has appeared in The Walrus , Motherboard , Art of the Title , Electric Literature , and the anthology Empty the Pews: Stories of Leaving the Church . Peter’s most recent book is the memoir How to Restore a Timeline: On Violence and Memory , published by House of Anansi Press in 2023. Author and actor John Hodgman – he was the PC in those Apple vs PC commercials, fyi - called the book “a brilliant, humorous, heartbreaking examination of how certain events break our lives apart, and what we do with the pieces.” Peter and I talk about what it’s like to be a culture critic in 2025, about the various forms his memoir took over the decade or so he was writing it and trying to get it published, and about my own envy over him getting John Hodgman to blurb his book. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Rachel Giese 34:14

vor 18 Tagen34:14

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My guest on this episode is Rachel Giese. Rachel is an author and the deputy national editor at The Globe and Mail . Her writing has appeared in The Walrus , The Globe and Mail , NewYorker.com, Toronto Life, Today's Parent, Hazlitt and RealLife.com. Her book Boys: What it Means to Become a Man, published in 2018 by HarperCollins Canada, was a bestseller, won the Writers’ Trust of Canada Shaughnessy Cohen Prize for Political Writing, and was named one of the Globe and Mail ’s 100 Favourite Books of the year. The Toronto Star said that “ Boys gives us hope that busting apart ‘The Man Box’ will ultimately lead to fuller, more rewarding lives not just for boys, but for all of us.” Rachel and I talk about publishing a somewhat hopeful book about men and masculinity right before Donald Trump became president for the first time, about her related wish that she could publish an updated version of Boys every year, and about how her conception of what constitutes good writing relates to her favourite kind of vintage alarm clock. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Sean Michaels 29:43

vor 25 Tagen29:43

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My guest on this episode is Sean Michaels. Sean is the author of the novels Us Conductors , which won the Giller Prize and the Paragraphe Hugh MacLennan Prize, and The Wagers. His non-fiction has appeared in the Globe and Mail, The Guardian, Pitchfork and The New Yorker , and he is the founder of the pioneering music blog Said the Gramophone. His most recent novel is Do You Remember Being Born? published by Random House Canada in 2023 and a finalist for the Paragraphe Hugh MacLennan Prize . The New York Times called it “a charming and refreshingly non-dystopian meditation on the duality of literary creation.” Sean and I talk about his complicated feelings on the collision of AI and literature, given that his most recent novel is about that very thing and even contains passages written by AI, about wanting to change his approach with each book, and about the approach he took to writing his next one, a novel for young readers. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Jon Klassen 27:26

vor 5 weeks27:26

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My guest on this episode is Jon Klassen. Jon is the creator of beloved, bestselling and award-winning “hat” serious of picture books: I Want My Hat Back , This Is Not My Hat , and We Found a Hat , in addition to The Rock from the Sky , and The Skull. He has also worked as an illustrator for many other authors’ books, as well as for feature animated films, music videos, and editorial pieces. His most recent book(s) are a series of board books, Your Forest, Your Farm, and Your Island. In its review of the series, the Wall Street Journal said that “[Klassen] has kept the dry humor but skipped the darkness, and the result is pure delight.” Jon and I talk about his childhood belief that inanimate objects have feelings, about the book of his that is not only his favourite, but which he believes only got published because of the success of the hat series, and about our shared love of children’s author William Steig—and our shared dislike of the films based on Steig’s most famous book, Shrek! This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Chelene Knight 28:16

vor 6 weeks28:16

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My guest on this episode is Chelene Knight. Chelene is the author of the collection Braided Skin , the memoir Dear Current Occupant , which won the Vancouver Book Award, the novel Junie , which also won the Vancouver Book Award, and the self-help memoir Let It Go . Chelene’s most recent book is Safekeeping: A Writer’s Guided Journal for Launching a Book with Love , published by House of Anansi in early 2025. Author Kai Thomas called it “current, comprehensive, and full of care.” Chelene and I talk about the expectations she had about the life of a writer when she published her first book, about how she has learned to be intentional in her decision-making and not chase every opportunity that comes her way as a writer, and about the ideas that may end up driving her next book, a potential novel. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Jason Logan 29:43

vor 7 weeks29:43

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My guest on this episode is Jason Logan. Jason is an artist, graphic designer, and ink maker, and the founder of the Toronto Ink Company. He is the author of the books If We Ever Break Up, This Is My Book , iGeneration , Festus , and Make Ink: A Forager's Guide to Natural Inkmaking . He is the subject of the 2022 documentary The Colour of Ink , which premiered at that year’s Toronto International Film Festival. Jason’s most recent book is How to Be a Color Wizard: Forage and Experiment with Natural Art Making , published by MIT Kids Books in 2024. Kirkus Reviews called the book “practical, imaginative, magical fun.” Jason and I talk about the missing letter U in the title of his most recent book, about learnig to write books after one early draft actually put his wife to sleep, and about how he has embraced the recognition that comes with being the central subject of a feature documentary. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Glenn Dixon 22:32

vor 8 weeks22:32

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My guest on this episode is Glenn Dixon. Glenn is an author and former educator whose work has appeared in National Geographic , the New York Post , The Globe and Mail , The Walrus , and Psychology Today . His books include the travel memoirs Tripping the World Fantastic , Pilgrim in the Palace of Words , and Juliet’s Answer , which was a national bestseller and has been published in twelve countries. His most recent book is the novel Bootleg Stardust , published by Simon & Schuster in 2021. Author and broadcaster Grant Lawrence called the book “a totally wild ride through the opulent and trashy world of 70s rock and roll.” Glenn and I talk about releasing his first novel at the tail end of COVID lockdown, about recording original music for that novel with equipment previously used by, among others, The Rolling Stones and The Beatles, and about the weird naming debate he recently had with the editors of his next novel, which features a sentient vacuum cleaner. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Aviva Rubin 29:51

vor 9 weeks29:51

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My guest on this episode is Aviva Rubin. Aviva is an author and essayist whose work has appeared in the New York Times , the Globe and Mail , Chatelaine , and Toronto Life, amongst other places. She is the author of the memoirs Tomorrow was Always Too Late For Me and Lost and Found in Lymphomaland . Her most recent book is the novel WHITE , published by re:books in 2024. Kirkus Reviews called it “a provocative exploration of the ties that bind and the mad hatred that kills.” Aviva and I talk about the brief moment of internet notoriety she experienced after writing a New York Times column on parenting and casual nudity, about the shift from memoir to fiction with her last book, and about the odd sense of hesitation her novel was greeted with by media and by author festivals, at a moment when a novel about how someone becomes a white supremacist is the very definition of timely. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Anne Michaels 28:27

vor 10 weeks28:27

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My guest on this special live episode is Anne Michaels. Anne is an internationally award-winning novelist whose books have been translated into more than forty-five languages. She is the winner of the Orange Prize, the Guardian Fiction Prize, the Commonwealth Poetry Prize, the Trillium Book Award and a Guggenheim Fellowship, and has been shortlisted for the Governor General's Literary Award, the Griffin Poetry Prize and twice for the Giller Prize. She has also been twice longlisted for the IMPAC Dublin Literary Award. Her novel Fugitive Pieces was made into a feature film. Her most recent novel, Held , was published by McClelland & Stewart in 2024, and shortlisted for the Booker Prize and won the Giller Prize. Alice Jolly, writing about Held in The Observer , said that “at the heart of this book lies the question of how goodness and love can be held across the generations. For Michaels, our final task is ‘to endure the truth.’” Anne and I spoke live onstage at Humber Polytechnic’s Lakeshore Campus on July 10th, as part of Humber’s Summer Workshop in Creative Writing (which I also coordinate). This is an edited version of that conversation. Anne and I talk about how, despite being both an internationally bestselling author and a fairly shy person, she has never developed a public persona for things like onstage interviews, about the importance of, in her words, “distillation, distillation, distillation” in her novel-writing process, and about the idea of writers who revise their work even after it has been published. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Steve Paikin 32:19

vor 11 weeks32:19

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My guest on this episode is Steve Paikin. Steve is an author, journalist, and broadcaster who hosted TVO’s nightly current affairs show The Agenda for 19 years, until that show ended earlier this summer. He is an officer of the Order of Canada, a member of the Order of Ontario, and the author of eight books. His most recent book, John Turner: An Intimate Biography of Canada's 17th Prime Minister , was published by Sutherland House in 2022. The Globe & Mail called John Turner “an insightful portrait of a powerfully talented but deeply conflicted individual who influenced the story of our country, mostly for the better.” Steve and I talk about his decision to leave The Agenda (and the legendary broadcaster whose advice planted the seed for that departure), about why he chose to write a deeply researched biography of a man who was Prime Minister for a whopping 79 days, and about taking on not just one, but three new book projects. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Valérie Bah 26:58

vor 12 weeks26:58

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My guest on this episode is Valérie Bah. Valérie is a multidisciplinary Québécois artist, filmmaker, documentarian, photographer, and writer whose first book was the collection The Rage Letters , translated from the French and published by Metonymy Press. Valérie’s most recent book is their first novel (and first book in English) Subterrane . That book was published by Véhicule Press in 2024 and was the winner of the Amazon Canada First Novel Award. The Montreal Review of Books said that Subterrane “hums with high-context, sublingual information, the kind that resists total comprehension joyfully and exactingly.” Valérie and I talk about the surreal experience of winning the Amazon First Novel Award (including the timely consumption of edibles), about how they feel at home in multiple artistic mediums and practices at once, and about their recurring lottery-winning fantasies, which involve a very particular make of car. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Leanne Toshiko Simpson 30:14

vor 13 weeks30:14

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My guest on this episode is Leanne Toshiko Simpson. Leanne is an author and educator who co-founded a reflective writing program at Canada’s largest mental health hospital and teaches at the University of Toronto. Her debut is the novel Never Been Better, published by HarperCollins Canada in 2024. That book recently won the KOBO Emerging Writer Prize in the category of Romance. In a starred review, Kirkus Reviews called the novel “a funny, refreshing, and generous story full of wisdom on mental health.” Leanne and I talk about how she, as someone with bipolar disorder, handles moments of emotional upheaval, about the benefits of being a writer publicly identified with that disorder, and about the reaction she has received, from romance readers and from readers interested in reading about issues of mental health, to writing a rom-com novel about pysch ward survivors. This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Natalie Zina Walschots 25:12

vor 14 weeks25:12

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My guest on this episode is Natalie Zina Walschots. Natalie is an author, game designer and journalist whose books include two poetry collections, DOOM: Love Poems for Supervillains and Thumbscrews. Her most recent book is the novel Hench , published by HarperCollins in 2021. That book was a finalist on Canada Reads and was nominated for a Locus Award for Best First Novel. The New York Times called it “witty and inventive.” Natalie and I talk about the multiple times she has written, then scrapped, the sequel to Hench , about finally cracking the novel while working in a borrowed camper in small-town Nova Scotia, and about the Canadian book that would have turned her very chill experience with Canada Reads into a “medieval joust.” This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Tickets for the live onstage interview with Anne Michaels on July 10 at the Humber Lakeshore Campus in Toronto. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

What Happened Next: a podcast about newish books

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Michelle Good 27:19

vor 15 weeks27:19

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My guest on this episode is Michelle Good. Michelle’s first book, the novel Five Little Indians , won the HarperCollins/UBC Best New Fiction Prize, the Amazon First Novel Award, the Governor General’s Literary Award, the Rakuten Kobo Emerging Writer Award, the Evergreen Award, the City of Vancouver Book of the Year Award, and even Canada Reads. Her most recent book, Truth Telling: Seven Conversations about Indigenous life in Canada was published in 2023 by HarperCollins Canada. That book was a #1 national bestseller and won the High Plains Book Award, and was a finalist for the Writers’ Trust Balsillie Prize for Public Policy and the Indigenous Voices Award. Author Waubgeshig Rice said that " Truth Telling is at once heartfelt, instructive, and authentic." Michelle and I talk about her “bemusement” over becoming a successful and celebrated author in her late 60s, about the sense of responsibility and pressure that comes with her new high-profile status, and about how, despite all the awards and accolades, the process of writing the follow-up to Five Little Indians has been just as stressful and full of self-doubt as it was the first time. Please check out Indigenous Watchdog This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock , in partnership with The Walrus . Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky . Used with permission. Tickets for the live onstage interview with Anne Michaels on July 10 at the Humber Lakeshore Campus in Toronto. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…

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