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Diego Pavia and Paul Finebaum are this week’s Netflix Sports Club guests. Paul Finebaum, the voice of the SEC, drops a bold national championship prediction that might give the Big Tenners pause, and he reveals which SEC quarterback has him starstruck. Vanderbilt quarterback, Diego Pavia, gives a standout performance on and off the field in SEC Football: Any Given Saturday. He relives that improbable ‘Bama victory, including pre-game routine and why he thinks this victory changed the conversation about Vandy football - sorry Nick Saban. Paul Fineman and Diego Pavia gaze into the crystal ball of the 2025 season, and what do they see? Heisman Trophies, making Auburn pay, and LSU’s chances for glory. In this interview, Vandy QB, Diego Pavia: 🟥 Details the 2024 Vandy vs. ‘Bama Buildup 🟥 Discusses playing for Coach Lea and with his bestie 🟥 Reveals his true height In this interview, SEC Expert, Paul Finebaum answers: 🟥 Why the SEC’s staying power is unrivaled? 🟥 Who’s almost a bigger star than Taylor Swift? 🟥 Which team will win the 2025 National Championship? 00:00 Intro 01:24 Vandy QB Diego Pavia Is a Star 01:37 Beating Bama 03:19 Choosing Vandy And Coach Lea 04:58 Give Me The Ball 06:20 Dude Put In The Work 07:38 Nick Saban Said What?? 08:20 Underdogs 10:22 Watch Out Auburn 12:33 Recruits: Come To Vandy! 13:29 Kay and Dani Talk SEC 15:54 Paul Finebaum’s SEC Picks 16:40 All About Arch Manning 17:23 SEC: The Only Game In Town 18:25 South Carolina Should Be In The Playoffs 19:40 Shane Beamer Bounce Back? 20:14 Arch Manning Is No Taylor Swift 21:42 The Weight of Being a Manning 22:31 Finebaum: “Best Player Since Tim Tebow” 23:20 LSU QB1 + Championship Or Bust 25:39 Post Saban Alabama 27:42 Is Vanderbilt Legit? 28:44 Can Mississippi State Survive? 29:49 The Vols “Will Struggle This Year” 31:44 SEC: Natty. Little Tenners: Nothing 33:09 Outro 34:28 Up Next - America’s Team: The Gambler And His Cowboys 🏈 Diego Pavia Instagram - https://bit.ly/45uLND4 TikTok - http://bit.ly/4fsLY5p X - https://bit.ly/4ldwx2j 🏈 Vanderbilt Instagram - http://bit.ly/4lfo8eu X - http://bit.ly/4mCiaWt YouTube - @vucommodores 🏈 Paul Finebaum Instagram - https://bit.ly/45kVtPv X - https://bit.ly/46JQFWc 🎙️ Kay Adams Instagram - http://bit.ly/3GYp4Go TikTok - http://bit.ly/4m7KmR9 X - http://bit.ly/45nI2Ou 🎙️ Dani Klupenger Instagram - https://bit.ly/3HeGGxx TikTok - https://bit.ly/4lQSBkl X - https://bit.ly/4lWpufr 🟥 Netflix Sports Instagram - http://bit.ly/45CPAhL TikTok - http://bit.ly/4mti6Ia X - http://bit.ly/4mseqGH Facebook - http://bit.ly/45o5xqK YouTube - @NetflixSports We want to hear from you! Leave us a voice message at www.speakpipe.com/NetflixSportsClub Be sure to watch, listen, and subscribe to the Netflix Sports Club Podcast on YouTube, Spotify, Tudum, and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted by Kay Adams, the Netflix Sports Club Podcast is an all-access deep dive into the Netflix Sports Universe. Join Kay as she speaks with athletes, coaches, and top sports correspondents to break down the latest Netflix Sports series. Expect bold opinions, insightful analysis, and candid conversations you won’t find anywhere else.…
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×On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Keith Whyte, Founder & President at Safer Gambling Strategies LLC. Hear them discuss: 01:24 - How Keith got into the space of problem gambling and responsible betting 02:16 - The definition of problem gambling vs. responsible gambling 05:35 - How gambling addiction compares to substance addictions like drugs or alcohol 07:25 - The gender breakdown of gambling addiction and who is most at risk 08:42 - Whether the form of gambling (sports betting, slots, etc.) changes addiction pathology 10:15 - Why gambling addiction is considered a “hidden addiction” 12:46 - What Keith wants betting executives to understand about addiction 17:28 - Keith’s view on operator responsibility and the need for regulatory clarity 20:50 - The challenges of affordability checks and drawing the line on responsible gambling 22:50 - The cost of regulation and its unintended consequences, especially for startups 27:00 - Jason and Keith dive into Kalshi and the convergence of trading and betting 30:50 - Empowering consumers with limit-setting tools and self-awareness 32:12 - Jason on why unfair pricing, not betting itself, is the real issue ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.…
On this special guest-host episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Alex Kane, Founder & CEO of Sporttrade, steps in as host. He’s joined by David Huffman, Chief Operating Officer at Sporttrade. Hear them discuss: 01:45 - How David transitioned into the betting industry from fintech 02:52 - The inspiration behind launching the “Bullish Predictions” newsletter 03:58 - Why the rise of prediction markets is legitimizing the betting exchange model 05:20 - Debunking the misconception that prediction markets have low margins 06:20 - What Robinhood’s event contracts mean for the future of sports prediction markets 09:47 - Breaking down Robinhood’s 3.57% effective hold rate 12:10 - How traditional sportsbooks’ promotional costs impact profitability 14:00 - The hidden operational costs that prediction markets avoid 18:10 - How Robinhood’s existing ecosystem gives it an edge in payment efficiency 20:50 - Why customers will benefit from lower margins and competition 23:33 - How Business of Betting helped Sporttrade get its start ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Davis Catlin, Managing Partner at Discerning Capital, an investment firm focused on regulated gambling across sports, media, and technology. Hear them discuss: 02:23 – How Discerning Capital supports startups that can't raise traditional capital 03:48 – Why sweepstakes businesses may struggle to raise capital going forward 05:29 – The “Big Beautiful Bill” and its proposal to limit gambling loss deductions 10:11 – Why unregulated models like sweeps and CFTC markets are gaining appeal 13:16 – Why startup sportsbooks can’t afford compliance in today’s environment 15:37 – Where Davis sees growth in category-agnostic infrastructure like payments 17:16 – Their thesis behind investing in challenger brands like Picklebet and Midnight 26:26 – How Davis explains the ethics of gambling to his kids, and reconciles it with faith ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.…
On this special crossover episode of the Business of Betting podcast and Zero Latency: An Eilers & Krejcik Gaming Podcast , Jason Trost of Smarkets sits down with Brad Allen to explore the state of prediction markets, CFTC licensing, the regulatory battle over sports betting, and the future of exchanges in both the U.S. and U.K. Hear them discuss: 01:08 – Why “prediction markets” are just rebranded betting exchanges in the U.S. 02:29 – The CFTC application path and why Smarkets is going for a full DCM license 04:43 – Why politics alone makes prediction markets worth doing 06:35 – Jason’s vision to turn Smarkets into a general trading platform 07:55 – Why sports betting tech is still stuck in the 1980s 09:04 – Can SGPs and exotic bets work under a CFTC model 13:32 – Will FanDuel or DraftKings acquire or build a U.S. exchange 16:45 – What killed UK exchange growth and how Smarkets plans to fix it ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.…
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On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Tony Trzeciak, angel investor and founder, to talk about betting data, AI, personal resilience, and one of the most powerful personal stories ever shared on the show. Content Disclaimer: This episode contains discussions of trauma, addiction, suicide, and recovery. Listener discretion is advised. Hear them discuss: 01:48 – How Tony’s paralysis and AI intersected, leading to startup innovation 03:27 – The life-changing moment that inspired his journey into generative AI 05:59 – Meeting the right mentors and the pivot from finance to sports betting 09:09 – Why connection, not code, is his real superpower 12:36 – Why he’s betting on a white-label B2B model instead of trading 15:14 – Homeless as a teen: how military recruiters and high school teachers changed his life 21:00 – The surgery, the overdose, the moment he became paralyzed 28:51 – Why helping others is now his mission, through startups, gaming, and advocacy 41:41 – Why sharing his story is part of his healing, and his plan for a documentary series ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason returns for another Office Hours session, where he answers listener questions about the betting industry, regulation, funding strategy, and more. Hear him discuss: 02:00 – What Jason thinks about Illinois' new per-bet tax and FanDuel's surcharge from the perspectives of lawmakers, operators, and consumers 05:40 – Why the SBC America’s Conference was buzzing about prediction markets and federal regulatory potential 07:49 – What Jason learned from raising $30M — and how he'd approach a $50M round today 10:45 – Whether Twitter and Polymarket’s partnership is a gimmicky hook or has real value 12:10 – Jason’s blunt take on Elon Musk, Doge, Trump, and what it says about the U.S. political and fiscal direction ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Daniel Wallach, sports law expert and founder of Wallach Legal. Hear them discuss: 04:35 - Daniel's leap from traditional law to sports betting and the challenges involved 06:08 - How Daniel became one of the first legal experts writing about sports betting 06:45 - The evolution of legal betting in New Jersey and Daniel’s early contributions 06:54 - Why appellate courts and the Supreme Court often get involved in major political cases 10:24 - Daniel’s opinion on the legality and process of sports prediction markets 12:36 - Why Daniel believes sports betting via the CFTC lacks congressional authorization 13:00 - The impact of Kalshi's operations on state-licensed betting ecosystems 17:00 - Daniel’s view on how Kalshi is skirting existing federal laws like the Wire Act 21:00 - How Kalshi's arguments for federal preemption may be flawed 34:44 - The challenges and delays in becoming a Designated Contract Market (DCM) 36:00 - How Kalshi may have accidentally discovered a legal loophole in sports prediction markets 39:00 - Can the CFTC’s self-certification model really regulate sports integrity? 41:40 - Are prediction markets more like financial instruments or gambling products? 43:00 - Why Daniel thinks sports betting needs more integrity safeguards than financial markets 46:49 - Daniel’s support for innovation but insistence on regulation 48:00 - Jason’s critique of state-level betting regulation and support for disruptive innovation 50:00 - The legal definition of gambling and why Daniel believes it applies to Kalshi ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Tom Waterhouse, Managing Partner at Waterhouse VC and fourth-generation bookmaker. This episode was recorded in-person at the SBC Summit Americas in Fort Lauderdale. Hear them discuss: 01:06 – Tom’s family legacy and the founding of tomwaterhouse.com 02:13 – Australia’s gambling market and why racing still dominates 03:35 – No in-play sports betting and its impact on the industry 05:04 – The rise of online racing and round-the-clock global action 06:09 – Why turnover tax reshaped the Australian betting ecosystem 08:12 – The consequences of pushing out sharp bettors 09:20 – The failure of Betfair and betting exchanges under turnover tax 10:30 – The case for U.S. federal betting regulation 11:28 – The vision for sports betting as a brokerage layer 13:10 – Why most bettors aren’t price-sensitive—and how to change that 15:01 – Has sports betting has become entertainment, not finance? 15:28 – Inside Waterhouse VC’s model: buying options, not equity 17:10 – Why options offer asymmetric upside with limited risk 19:15 – Waterhouse’s diligence process and market theses 22:48 – The fund’s structure, distributions, and public equities strategy 24:12 – Following 13F filings from top long-only fund managers 28:18 – Using gambling to teach kids probability and decision-making 29:33 – Why Tom’s staying in betting: edge, pace, and constant change ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.…
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On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Jesse Learmonth, host of the Betting Startups Podcast, who guest-hosts to interview Jason about his company, Smarkets, and its current efforts to raise $50,000,000 from investors. Hear them discuss: 09:37 - What it means for a company to raise money from investors 13:00 - Why Jason is going back to raise capital again for Smarkets 14:26 - The difference between raising money from angels vs. institutional investors 20:40 - How Jason first raised money to launch Smarkets back in 2008 23:40 - Jason’s journey from friends & family funding to angel investors 26:03 - What it's like pitching to venture capitalists and navigating power dynamics 27:20 - Why a profitable company would still raise more capital 30:41 - How much Jason is trying to raise in the Series C round 33:03 - Smarkets’ interest in the CFTC model and prediction markets 34:16 - How they’re thinking about entering new asset classes—build or partner? 35:30 - Long-term visions: more funding rounds, IPO, or acquisition? 36:45 - How Jason maintains founder stamina after 17 years 38:50 - Jason’s personal routines and longevity mindset as a founder ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.…
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On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Katie Bo Lillis, CNN intelligence reporter and author of Death of a Racehorse: An American Story . Hear them discuss: 01:06 – Katie’s rural upbringing and start at the racetrack 02:28 – From walking hots to bloodstock reporting in Saratoga 03:10 – Thoroughbreds, quarter horses, and racing’s breed confusion 04:21 – How horse racing thrives globally in Ireland and Hong Kong 05:13 – Racing’s financial dependence on gambling and takeout 07:06 – Parimutuel betting, field sizes, and why it still matters 08:28 – Why racing can’t build stars like Formula 1 does 10:05 – Short careers and shifting allegiances hurt fan engagement 12:13 – Flightline and the business logic behind early retirements 13:33 – Breeding economics: 200 mares at $250k per stallion 15:27 – The rising tension between tradition and modernization 19:19 – The central ethical dilemma: horse fatalities and public trust 24:06 – Why catastrophic leg injuries mean euthanasia 25:59 – Sudden deaths, arrhythmias, and unknown causes 28:30 – The Baffert controversy and thyroid drug concerns 30:20 – Breakdowns and the real welfare crisis in racing 34:50 – Overbreeding from flawed sires: risks to the sport ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.…
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We're bringing back one of our all-time most popular episodes for a special re-release! Originally aired last year, this conversation with Matthew Trenhaile was a fan favorite. Matthew is one of the sharpest minds in the sports betting world, and his insights into exchanges, market making, and the future of the industry are as relevant today as they were then. Hear them discuss: 02:41 – The Smarkets origin story, and why Jason thought an exchange was needed 08:59 – How Smarkets almost became a social betting platform, and the role that social features play in the exchange experience 13:30 – The Betfair API, developer ecosystems, and why Smarkets currently operates as a "closed garden" platform 22:11 – The backstory of how Smarkets came to be its own market maker, and the challenges that came with that 29:49 – Whether the value proposition of exchanges will ever become broadly appealing to recreational bettors 37:58 – The allure of pivoting to B2B for exchanges and syndicates 47:45 – The challenges of offering political betting markets 52:50 – Trading on Betfair in the early days 61:25 – What Matthew wants to be when he grows up ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Thomas McGrath, Chief Revenue Officer at TXODDS. Hear them discuss: 01:29 - The founding story of TXODDS and its early product evolution 02:57 - Jason’s experience using TXODDS as a customer 04:06 - The role of TXODDS in data origination and live scouting 05:16 - Addressing historical issues with soft pricing and long-tail market coverage 06:10 - How TXODDS approaches market coverage and their Fusion feed upgrade 08:51 - Improvements in user interface and the shift away from Java-based tools 12:00 - Ethical data collection practices and how TXODDS handles scraping 12:52 - Thomas’s vision for TXODDS over the next decade 14:11 - Why TXODDS chose to originate college sports data 15:30 - Details of their live scouting operations and staff scale-up 17:39 - Future plans for expanding into other sports 19:48 - How legacy systems impact the evolution of data services 21:01 - Thomas’s hopes for the near-term future of the industry 22:26 - Jason and Thomas on the future of horse racing ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason returns for another Office Hours session, answering listener questions and reflecting on Smarkets’ journey, product-market fit, and the future of U.S. regulation. Hear him discuss: 03:00 – Lessons from building a global trading platform 04:50 – What Jason would’ve done differently with Smarkets 08:40 – Why sports betting should be separate from casino 10:40 – Ethics of limiting sharp bettors 13:00 – How his leadership style has evolved over time 16:30 – Why Smarkets won’t pursue the sweepstakes model in the U.S. ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Roger Ehrenberg, founder of Eberg Capital and a seasoned investor with a background in Wall Street and venture capital. Hear them discuss: 05:43 - From Wall Street to sports: Jason’s trading roots and the power of price in investing 07:06 - Roger’s seed investing strategy: founders, pricing, and the long game in sports 09:58 - Luck, skill, or timing? Unpacking Roger’s unicorn wins in sports and beyond 12:32 - High stakes, big rewards: Roger’s concentrated approach to sports investing 15:00 - Gritty founders in sports: lessons from Jason’s Deliveroo misstep 17:05 - Spotting sports founders with passion and proven excellence 21:39 - The psychology of sports founders: predicting resilience in high-pressure moments 24:09 - Sports as social glue: Roger’s vision for fandom in a fragmented world 26:22 - Live sports vs. short attention spans: the battle for fan engagement 29:36 - Emerging sports and gaming: where fandom meets the future 31:14 - MLB’s turnaround: rule changes and the quest for younger fans 32:32 - Inside Roger’s sports portfolio: Marlins, Real Salt Lake, and Alpine F1 37:38 - Sports betting as social currency: tying fans together through wagers 41:18 - Fixing sports betting’s financial game: why it lags and how to catch up 43:01 - Navigating chaos: Roger’s advice for sports founders in uncertain times ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Alex Kane, CEO and founder of Sportrade. Hear them discuss: 03:13 - Alex’s balanced take on Trump’s policies, including the Department of Government Efficiency 07:43 - The evolving world of betting exchanges 08:33 - Alex on the potential of a CFTC-regulated betting exchange ecosystem 10:53 - Comparing the U.S. stock market’s competitive venues to betting exchanges 12:15 - Whether Sportrade is pursuing a DCM/DCO application 14:33 - How sports betting could mirror the stock market’s infrastructure (ECNs, ATSs, etc.) 17:54 - Alex envisions two forms of sports betting: exchange-listed and state-regulated 20:37 - Jason’s skepticism about the CFTC sanctioning sports contracts 22:41 - Alex argues states have failed to regulate prediction markets fairly 25:11 - The philosophical difference between gaming and prediction markets 27:38 - Jason on the political realities blocking fair regulation 29:19 - Could sports betting fit under the SEC instead of the CFTC? 31:01 - Alex on the Trump administration’s potential influence on federal regulation 32:15 - Wrapping up with optimism for the future of prediction markets ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Travis Geiger, the CXO and Co-founder of WagerWire. Hear them discuss: 04:01 - How WagerWire was founded from a real-life betting moment 05:33 - What WagerWire does and how it creates a secondary market for sports bets 06:32 - The process of selling a bet through WagerWire 07:51 - How WagerWire ensures bet validation and handles settlement 09:10 - How operators react to WagerWire and their incentive to collaborate 10:06 - The psychology behind cashing out vs. selling a bet 11:40 - The marketing and viral potential of big betting moments 12:03 - The legal framework WagerWire operates under 12:24 - WagerWire’s licensing requirements and regulatory approach 17:06 - The Starties: a new awards initiative for startup recognition 18:26 - Challenges for startups in the sports betting industry 19:08 - Why the industry struggles to foster startup growth 21:03 - The role of regulation in creating high barriers to entry 22:33 - Jason’s take on the lack of startup innovation in sports betting ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Greg Wolfe, CEO and co-founder of The Wolfline. Greg, an options trader turned sports betting analytics expert and advocate for consumer protection, shares his unique perspective on the industry. Hear them discuss: 01:32 - How Greg got started in sports betting at just five years old 02:42 - His journey from betting and bookmaking to options trading 04:43 - Why he left the financial markets for sports betting analytics 07:50 - The high-hold, low-volume model in horse racing and its flaws 10:20 - Why sports betting hasn't modernized like financial markets 12:18 - Greg’s argument that sports betting contracts should be regulated as securities 15:40 - Applying the Howey Test to sports betting 19:50 - Whether sports betting meets the SEC's definition of a security 26:28 - The regulatory debate: Should the SEC or CFTC oversee sports betting? 30:20 - The SEC's reluctance to regulate and its impact on sports betting 32:10 - Consumer protection issues in sports betting and financial markets 33:50 - Data latency, front-running, and how sportsbooks exploit bettors 34:50 - Why Greg believes the leagues act as issuers of sports betting contracts 35:40 - Where to find Greg and his parting thoughts on industry ethics ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Manuel Stan, CEO of Catena Media. Hear them discuss: 01:01 - Manuel’s journey to Las Vegas and what it’s like calling it home 03:07 - An overview of what Catena Media does and its role in the sports betting ecosystem 04:03 - How shifts in the U.S. market are impacting Catena Media’s business 07:21 - How affiliates are evolving and why engagement is becoming more important 08:00 - Why Catena Media doesn’t operate its own sportsbook 09:31 - The challenges of being a publicly listed company 12:28 - Catena Media’s turnaround strategy under Manuel’s leadership 13:30 - Why Catena Media pulled back from a joint AI initiative 15:20 - The long-term viability of CPA models in the U.S. market 16:49 - Jason’s take on affiliates and their role in customer acquisition 20:38 - The balance between product quality and marketing investment ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Mark Phillip, CEO and founder of MetaBet and Are You Watching This?! Hear them discuss: 01:03 - Mark’s take on life in Austin, Texas—Is it worth the hype? 06:30 - The changing landscape of sports media and viewership habits 08:20 - Will younger generations maintain the same level of passion for sports? 09:56 - How sports leagues are adapting to shorter attention spans 14:00 - Why finding where to watch your favorite sports is becoming increasingly difficult 16:15 - The need for better curation in sports broadcasting 19:09 - The challenge of making sports betting odds more user-friendly 21:23 - How sportsbooks can become more engaging for casual fans 24:30 - The opportunity for sportsbooks to differentiate with a fan-centric approach 25:00 - How MetaBet is making sports betting more accessible and engaging ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Captain Jack Andrews, Co-Founder of Unabated. Hear them discuss: 02:20 - How Captain Jack's first trip to Las Vegas ignited his passion for gambling 06:10 - His advocacy for fairness in sports betting inspired by personal experiences with limitations 07:40 - Why he believes sports betting offers more edges than card counting 11:20 - Reflections on missed opportunities to influence early sports betting legislation 15:20 - How politics delayed New Jersey's sports betting legalization in 1994 19:10 - The importance of transparency regarding the house edge in sports betting 23:10 - Whether sports betting is a game of skill or chance 27:40 - The role of greed in the sustainability of the sports betting industry 29:10 - Captain Jack’s work with Unabated 35:40 - His experience in being on Masterclass 43:10 - Thoughts about exchanges becoming the future infrastructure of sports betting ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Steven Salz, Co-Founder and CEO of Rivalry, a Canadian company focused on serving a new generation of bettors with a mix of eSports, traditional sports, and gaming products. Hear them discuss: 01:53 - Steven’s view on Canada’s current state, including challenges in healthcare and housing 02:10 - The cost of living in Canada and its impact on citizens 10:49 - Why Rivalry avoided an RTO and opted for a direct listing 20:05 - The struggles of managing a public company on quarterly reporting cycles 26:40 - Rivalry’s transformation to prioritize profitability and player KPIs 30:30 - The benefits of using crypto as a payment processor in the gambling industry 33:40 - How blockchain analysis tools help Rivalry ensure compliance with crypto transactions 34:40 - Why fiat regulations make payment processing more frustrating than crypto 28:40 - Rivalry's innovative approach to catering to a younger, internet-native demographic 30:47 - The challenges and lessons of building Rivalry's tech from scratch ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason hosts an office hours session to kick off 2025. Hear him discuss: 03:40 - DraftKings’ latest attempt to monetize through subscription fees and his perspective on the move 05:30 - Bet365’s impressive revenue growth and its controversial market practices 08:50 - Reflections on the U.S. election results and expectations for Trump’s new administration 14:30 - Jason's New Year’s resolutions, including healthier habits and reduced screen time 16:30 - Predictions for the sports betting industry in 2025 Tune in to hear Jason’s candid insights and plans for the year ahead! ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Adam Krejcik, co-founder and partner at Eilers & Krejcik Gaming. Hear them discuss: 00:50 - How Adam's company name creates lasting impressions 03:20 - The services Eilers & Krejcik Gaming provides and their value to stakeholders 07:16 - Adam’s background and his path into the gaming industry 08:50 - The evolving culture of gaming and sports betting in California 12:10 - Challenges and opportunities in regulating gaming in California 15:00 - The proposition system in California and why sports betting legalization efforts have failed 19:10 - A comparison of regulatory environments in California and Texas 21:50 - The rise of sweepstakes gaming and its implications for the industry 24:20 - Advice for entrepreneurs aiming to enter the U.S. sports betting market 26:50 - The potential for disruption in the U.S. sports betting landscape 29:00 - Adam’s reflections on the current market leaders and their growth trajectory ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
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On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Nigel Eccles, founder of BetHog and co-founder of FanDuel. Hear them discuss: 3:11 - Why the UK startup scene struggles to compete with the US. 8:23 - Founding FanDuel and the challenges of building a billion-dollar company. 14:27 - Why Nigel stayed in the US and the entrepreneurial energy it offers. 21:00 - Raising massive funding rounds at FanDuel and what it taught him. 38:50 - The FanDuel sale to Flutter and why it wasn’t a win for everyone involved. 42:00 - Nigel’s journey after FanDuel, including launching various ventures before BetHog. 47:20 - Reflections on working with a spouse and how it shaped FanDuel's growth. 53:15 - Why BetHog is Nigel’s next big bet and how it’s making sports betting more social. ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Jeff Ifrah, Founding & Managing Partner at Ifrah Law. Hear them discuss: 01:30 - Jeff’s reaction to U.S. midterm results and their impact on sports betting. 02:13 - Insights into New Jersey legislation and the issue of "skins." 04:00 - Balancing political realities with free-market ideals in regulation. 07:00 - Legal takes on sweepstakes models and their viability. 09:20 - Why regulators are slow to act on sweepstakes issues. 15:18 - Challenges for small operators in markets dominated by giants. 18:40 - Comparing the U.K. gaming model to the U.S. system. 21:00 - Polymarket and Kalshi: Contrasting legal paths for event markets. 30:20 - The current state of using cryptocurrency in U.S. sports betting. ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Rob Davies, COO of PowerPlay. Hear them discuss: 01:00 - Rob’s unique background in philosophy and his PhD on religious toleration 02:15 - Why Rob will always be a Bolton Wanderers fan, no matter what! 03:00 - The importance of accepting fallibility in business and decision-making 06:10 - How Rob transitioned from academia to the betting industry through William Hill 08:40 - Rob and Jason laugh about always being surprised by the “butler” in mystery plots 10:00 - How Rob’s perspective on the morality of gambling has changed over time 13:47 - What is “palpable error,” and how PowerPlay handles it transparently 15:22 - Jason tests Rob’s philosophy background with a counter-case on bet repricing ethics 20:47 - Why not build PowerPlay on top of an exchange model? Rob shares his insights 24:20 - Rob’s advice for startups: the importance of customer service and query resolution 28:10 - The rise of offshore and crypto casinos and their impact on regulated operators 32:18 - Rob’s reflections on his career and aspirations for the future ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
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On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by writer, David Hill to discuss his Rolling Stone feature - "Is the $11 Billion Online Sportsbook Bubble About to Burst?" Hear them discuss: 00:51 - David's transition from a union organizer to becoming a writer and how it shaped his immersive storytelling approach. 07:30 - David's upbringing in Hot Springs, Arkansas, a historic gambling hub, and its influence on his interest in gambling. 09:00 - The morality of gambling, societal parallels with alcohol, and reflections on how gambling's perception has evolved. 12:15 - The intertwining history of gambling and sports, including how gambling shaped early sports in America. 15:10 - The industry's current technological challenges, perceived stagnation, and its pricing inefficiencies. 20:30 - The debate around sports betting’s sustainability, public perception, and parallels with other industries. 30:20 - The societal costs of gambling addiction and the industry's responsibility in addressing problem gambling. 37:40 - Broader societal issues, including the impact of social media, and Jason's reflections on the parallels with sports betting. 41:10 - What’s next for David Hill after this in-depth exploration of the gambling industry. Read David's Rolling Stone feature here - Is the $11 Billion Online Sportsbook Bubble About to Burst? ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Jeff Benson, Director of Operations at Circa Sports. Hear them discuss: 02:10 - How Jeff got started in the sports betting industry 03:30 - What brought Jeff to Circa Sports and his early impressions of the company 06:40 - The growth strategy for Circa Sports and its approach to expansion 08:05 - The unique aspects of Circa’s sportsbook operation model 10:50 - How Circa approaches customer service and client relations 12:35 - Circa’s philosophy on offering high betting limits and customer-friendly policies 15:10 - The challenges of balancing profitability with bettor-friendly practices 17:50 - Circa’s stance on responsible gambling and its approach to player protections 21:00 - The impact of sports betting legislation on Circa’s business 24:15 - Jeff’s perspective on the future of the sports betting industry and exchanges ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by his coach, Liam Forde, Founder and CEO of The Zone. Hear them discuss: 03:00 - How Jason first met Liam and began coaching with him 05:20 - Liam’s views on when strict coaching models may or may not work 06:30 - How to motivate employees without anger, and why clarity and responsibility matter 09:20 - How Jason’s coaching helped him shift from an “angry coach” approach 11:00 - The concept of “flow” and why rest is crucial to reach a flow state 12:20 - Why balance between work intensity and mental relaxation improves productivity 14:40 - Jason’s shift in perspective on health and wellness after working with Liam 20:10 - How Liam encouraged Jason to prioritize health through gentle accountability 24:00 - Balancing the demands of being a CEO with family life, and the impact on productivity 30:10 - Jason’s reflections on how being a CEO impacts his employees and their families 33:30 - The “superpowers” and challenges different types of CEOs typically face 36:00 - The ripple effects of a CEO’s energy and attitude on company culture ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Sue Schneider, Co-Founder at Defy the Odds. Hear them discuss: 03:15 - How Sue got started in the betting industry 07:42 - The early days of online gaming and betting 12:33 - Challenges Sue faced in building an industry presence 16:50 - The evolution of regulatory frameworks in online gambling 21:17 - Key milestones in the global expansion of sports betting 27:20 - Sue’s role and experiences working at SBC 29:30 - The role of technology in transforming betting experiences 30:45 - Co-Founding Defy the Odds and setting its goals 34:12 - Differences in gambling regulations across regions 39:45 - Advice for those entering the gaming and betting industry today ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Adam Small, founder of Third Planet Affiliates. Hear them discuss: 02:01 - Adam’s background and entry into the betting industry 02:40 - Election mania and its impact on business sentiment 03:24 - The role of affiliates in the betting industry 04:23 - Industry insights and trends impacting affiliates 13:44 - Reflecting on the affiliate sector's recent challenges 14:31 - Examining examples of affiliate revenue "baskets" 16:22 - Shifts in cost-per-click and SEO strategies 17:40 - Adam's journey into the affiliate industry 28:00 - Why Adam chose not to become a betting operator 29:30 - The appeal and challenges of being an affiliate 34:08 - The future of growth and potential reckoning in affiliates 37:00 - What’s next for affiliate marketing in betting ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason answers listener-submitted questions and shares his insights on the latest developments in the industry, including the proposed UK gambling tax, sweepstakes models, and NCAA player prop markets. Hear him discuss: 01:26 - His recent trip to Vegas and G2E conference highlights 03:30 - Impact of proposed UK gambling tax increase 08:00 - Sweepstake models and their rise in the United States 10:45 - Industry optimism from recent G2E and SBC conferences 16:53 - NCAA’s consideration of banning player prop markets due to social media abuse 22:41 - Why PolyMarket and Kalshi predict Trump as the 2024 election favorite, despite traditional polls showing a close race ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Stuart Simms, the CEO of FairPlay Sports Media, recorded live at G2E in Las Vegas. Hear them discuss: 01:10 - The strategic shift from OddsChecker to Fairplay Sports Media 04:10 - Stuart’s personal health journey and diagnosis with cancer 08:20 - The impact of diet on health and cancer treatment 12:00 - Key takeaways from G2E and networking insights 13:30 - The changes in OddsChecker’s business model 16:40 - Acquisition of Quarter4 and integrating AI for predictive models in sports betting 19:30 - How AI and real-time data impact tools like Bet Builder 22:00 - The challenges of balancing transparency for consumers and relationships with bookmakers 25:40 - The pricing margins in sports betting 30:10 - Consumer price sensitivity in sports betting 32:00 - The future of betting exchanges and the role of user experience in adoption 33:50 - U.S. market opportunities for data-driven tools in sports betting ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X: https://x.com/bettingpod ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X: https://x.com/jasontrost ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here: https://www.businessofbetting.com/guest --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Dean Sisun from ProphetX. Hear them discuss: 02:04 - The overview of ProphetX and the sweepstakes model 04:12 - Postmortem on why ProphetX moved away from the betting exchange model 08:40 - Challenges with regulatory models in the betting industry 10:00 - Exploring the novelty factor and customer acquisition 11:25 - Predictions for the future viability of betting exchanges in the U.S. 13:32 - Understanding how sweepstakes stacks up to traditional sports betting 14:00 - Legality of the sweepstakes model 16:00 - The mechanics of turning sweepstakes into a cash prize 18:40 - Companies operating in the sweepstakes sports betting market 25:53 - The challenges of implementing the peer-to-peer model 26:51 - Managing a remote team, while moving to Miami ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
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Business of Betting with Jason Trost

On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Bill Pascrell, III (BP3) at the SBC Summit in Lisbon, Portugal. Hear them discuss: 01:20 Pascrell’s Journey and Industry Insights shared 02:32 Debating the morality of gambling practices 04:09 Personal reflections and upcoming ethics debate preview 11:32 The Intersection of politics and gambling industry 15:00 Advice on how to engage in political advocacy 18:04 Challenges in legalizing sports betting across states 27:24 Discussing state dynamics and tribal sovereignty issues 29:54 The New Jersey compromise and casino concerns raised 31:57 The role of tribes in political coalitions building 32:27 Public perception and media Influence on gambling 35:22 Political betting and regulatory challenges explained 42:05 Federal vs. state regulation of gambling industry 46:08 Election perspective and political divisions discussed ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason returns after a summer break with his first solo "Office hours" episode, where he tackles questions surrounding regulation, prediction markets, bettor limits, the US presidential election, and the latest from within Smarkets. Hear them discuss: 01:00 - Jason’s summer break and family reflections 02:30 - Differences in French vs. American culture 05:00 - Kalshi's prediction markets and CFTC regulation 09:15 - Massachusetts Gaming Commission on limiting bettors 15:00 - The US presidential election race, and what the Smarkets markets are saying 45 days from the election 19:30 - Attending conferences like the upcoming SBC Summit and G2E 23:00 - Smarkets' current projects and updates ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
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Business of Betting with Jason Trost

On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Dustin Gouker, Founder of Closing Line Consulting, and Joe Brennan Jr., Executive Chairman from Prime Sports. Hear them discuss: 01:35 - DraftKings' new winning surcharge announcement 02:45 - The states affected by the surcharge 03:20 - The stock market's reaction to the announcement 04:05 - Comparison of U.S. and international tax rates 06:30 - The potential impact on DraftKings' profitability 07:55 - The price sensitivity of American bettors 09:00 - Historical context of high tax rates in the industry 10:15 - Implications for competitors like FanDuel and Smarkets 12:50 - The adjusted EBITDA and financial metrics analysis 16:00 - Potential impact on VIP customers and betting volume 18:20 - Product comparison between sportsbooks and exchanges 20:00 - Broader implications for the sports betting industry 22:00 - Predictions on if DraftKings will implement the surcharge ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Jamie Hart from Conquer Technology. Hear them discuss: 1:10 - The recent UK elections and environmental concerns 2:22 - Climate change and the role of government in solving big issues 4:16 - Jamie's background in horse racing and initial experiences with betting 7:10 - Early internet betting and its evolution at William Hill 8:28 - The challenges of manual betting systems and early online betting 10:05 - The impact of regulatory changes on sports betting innovation 12:36 - The importance of knowing every aspect of your business operations 14:43 - Jamie's perspective on technology and customer interaction in betting 18:00 - Discussing the stagnation in the betting industry due to regulatory pressures 20:36 - Potential future changes and innovations in the betting industry 23:18 - The challenges and potential of horse racing in modern betting 27:00 - The importance of making betting more accessible and enjoyable 31:10 - Comparing horse racing to Formula One in terms of theater and excitement 34:34 - The difficulty of selling horse racing due to high costs and outdated practices 37:20 - Potential strategies for revitalizing horse racing and attracting a younger audience ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Sam Sadi from LiveScore Group. Hear them discuss: 1:52 - Sam's life after leaving Turkey, and then returning to start a sportsbook in 1998 2:36 - Understanding inflation in Turkey and historical economic comparisons 3:53 - The history of how the LiveScore Group came together 8:26 - How LiveScore Group is differentiate itself from other UK sportsbooks 10:11 - Developing an in-house sportsbook platform, and current efforts to migrate to it 11:35 - Sam's definition of being a world-class sportsbook product 20:29 - How Sam think about buying versus building core pieces of the technology stack 26:02 - Sam's take on the state of sports betting in 2024 28:18 - How Sam views unregulated markets 31:08 - Insights on the role of exchanges in the future of sports betting 35:45 - Regulation, the push for transparency, and consumer empowerment 42:39 - What Sam wants to be when he grows up ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Joe "Tall" Bunevith from GLI. Hear them discuss: 01:25 - What GLI (Gaming Laboratories International) does and their global reach. 02:31 - The presidential debate and the relevance of political debates in modern media. 03:29 - Joe's take on the impact of political debates and the change in political dynamics over the years. 10:11 - Poker, Joe's career shift, and his experience in the poker industry. 13:16 - Joe's journey from Massachusetts to Southern California and launching a poker training company. 17:41 - Insight into professional poker life, the importance of emotional control, and the rise of poker solvers. 22:49 - Joe’s role at GLI and the regulatory process for sports betting applications. 25:36 - The GLI 33 certification process and discusses regulatory challenges. 31:38 - The difficulties startups face in the current regulatory environment and the impact on innovation. 34:31 - Joe’s perspective on the lack of new entrants in the sports betting industry and the role of big players. ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
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Business of Betting with Jason Trost

On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Jake Williams. Hear them discuss: 02:00 -Jake’s experience in fatherhood and raising daughters as Jason shares his family dynamics. 04:15 - Jason's focus on health, exercise, and therapy; benefits of a healthy lifestyle. 11:15 - Jason’s reasons for not drinking alcohol and its positive impact on his life. 14:10 - Jake's thoughts on drinking culture and its role in social and professional settings. 16:55 - The current state of the sports betting industry and significant events. 20:55 - Analysis of fluctuating GGR numbers and the impact of VIP players. 23:10 - The regulatory environments and their impact on businesses. 26:45 - Moral implications of operating in unregulated markets. 30:50 - Jason's frustrations with the regulatory landscape and compliance challenges. 32:36 - Summer plans and work-life balance with taking time off to enjoy family vacations and relaxation. ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Scott Sadin from US Integrity. Hear them discuss: 01:00 - The recent conviction of former President Donald Trump, and how that will affect his current candidacy 05:27 - What it means to have 'integrity' in professional and collegiate sports, and how US Integrity is ensuring it 08:37 - How insider information can be used for nefarious purposes 10:32 - The role that sports properties play in ensuring integrity of their events and stakeholders 13:32 - How US Integrity responds to alerts of anomalies or irregularities 17:37 - Public perception of betting-related scandals, the role that media plays in it, and conflating 'outrage' with 'surprise' 23:55 - Scott's perspective and experience as a "picks and shovels" business within the regulated betting industry 25:54 - The consolidation of B2B companies within the industry, including US Integrity's recent merger with Odds On Compliance 27:15 - Additional verticals that US Integrity is considering expanding its business into 30:48 - The business risk associated with being a B2B provider during a time of consolidation and declining customers 32:27 - How Scott is feeling as an impending first-time parent 36:50 - What Scott wants to be when he grows up ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Adam Bjorn from Plannatech. Hear them discuss: 01:11 - Adam's recent travels throughout the US 03:37 - Adam's past experience in the offshore betting industry, and how it's similar/different to regulated markets 06:30 - The difficulty for regulators and prosecutors to enforce action against offshore operators 11:15 - What made Adam want to push for moving the unregulated to the regulated 14:03 - The jurisdictions that Adam sees as having the most favorable operating models 17:16 - Whether Adam sees himself as a professional bettor first or sportsbook operator first 19:16 - The relationship between Plannatech and Prime Sports 20:19 - What changes and innovations Adam is trying to bring to the industry 23:29 - Adam's take on the role that exchanges play, and what the future of them looks like 28:14 - Whether the low margin model can work in the regulated US market 30:33 - What Adam wants to be when he grows up ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Joe Asher from IGT. Hear them discuss: 01:35 - The background of IGT, Joe's role at the company, and where sports betting fits within the IGT business 07:12 - Nevada's head start with legal mobile betting, and how its model is different from other states 10:45 - The dynamic between brick-and-mortar and online operators, and the threat of cannibalization 14:36 - The state of horse racing, and whether track owners should benefit from legislative protections 18:20 - The role of government subsidies in regulated gaming, and in private industry more broadly 20:11 - Morality and ethics for operators of real-money gaming products 25:14 - Joe's appointment by President Biden to Chair of the Wilson Center 31:00 - Remaining non-partisan when debating policy matters 34:10 - What Joe wants to be when he grows up ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Joe Dunnigan from ALT Sports Data. Hear them discuss: 01:22 - The genesis of ALT Sports Data, and the problem they set out to solve in the market 05:25 - Why alternative sports don't historically have a culture of betting despite their popularity 07:21 - The target customer persona for betting on alternative sports 09:12 - How alternative sports are segmented, and which are the most popular ones 13:15 - Why ALT Sports Data is securing official data rights instead of aggregating data themselves 16:25 - Why they are building an owned B2C media platform in addition to provisioning odds on a B2B basis 17:29 - Funding background and team composition of ALT Sports Data 19:36 - The future of the relationship between data rights holders and sportsbook operators, and the sustainability of the existing model 23:47 - The appeal of live sports content with younger generations and demographics 26:07 - Being an entrepreneur in the later career stage, and the benefits that brings 29:15 - Focusing on a niche versus being everything to everybody 31:08 - What Joe wants to be when he grows up ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Follow Jason on Twitter/X ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here --- This podcast is presented by Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove . iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove , the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.…
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