Love Is a Classroom: Stories of Inclusion is a podcast that aims to serve as a bridge for a more inclusive world. Through storytelling and conversation, each series illuminates the collective experience of individuals who strive to break down barriers and foster a more inclusive world for children with disabilities or who are neurodivergent. Together we explore and discover practical ways we can all contribute to building a society where everyone belongs.
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Everyone has a diversity story- even those you don’t expect. Get ready to hear from leading CEO’s, bestselling authors and entrepreneurs as we uncover their true stories of diversity and inclusion. The Will To Change is hosted by Jennifer Brown- Jennifer is an award-winning entrepreneur, dynamic speaker, and author and diversity and inclusion expert. She is a passionate social equality advocate committed to helping leaders foster healthier and therefore more productive workplaces, ultimately ...
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E315: Beyond the DEI Backlash: Embracing Adaptability and Innovation in a Changing Landscape with Jay Van Bavel
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In this episode Jennifer welcomes Jay Van Bavel, an Associate Professor of Psychology and Neural Science at New York University. Together, they discuss the complex challenges facing the DEI field, exploring how extreme stances and political backlash have overshadowed much of the good work being done. Jennifer and Jay consider ways to rebrand and re…
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Focused Episode: Advocating For Your Child With Disability
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This focused episode is about advocating for a child with a disability or who is neurodivergent. It features a panel of three distinguished parent advocates. The panelists share their experiences, stories, and professional knowledge. They talk about building meaningful relationships with IEP and IFSP team members, advocating when, from a parental p…
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E314: In the “Bug Soup” Part of Change: Thriving Through Beginnings, Endings, and Transitions with Kat Gordon
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In this episode originally recorded as a community call, Jennifer is joined by Kat Gordon, a trailblazing leader who has made significant contributions to the fields of advertising, diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), and leadership coaching. As the founder of the 3% Movement, Kat has been a driving force in increasing female representation in …
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E313: Hygiene for All: Essity's Journey to Inclusive Design with Amie Kromis and Lina Clavijo
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In this episode Jennifer welcomes Amie Kromis and Lina Clavijo from Essity, a leading global hygiene and health company, to discuss the company's commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in their products and workplace. Amie and Lina share insights on how Essity incorporates inclusive design principles to create products that are access…
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E312: Beyond the Bamboo Ceiling: Practical Strategies for Asian American Career Advancement with Jane Hyun
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Tune in as Jennifer is joined by Jane Hyun, a leading expert on cultural fluency, diversity, and inclusion. Jane shares her personal journey as an Asian American navigating the complexities of identity and leadership in corporate America. They discuss Jane's groundbreaking book, "Breaking the Bamboo Ceiling," and her upcoming release, "Leadership T…
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E311: Voices From the Will to Change: Women's History Month Roll Up with Jennifer and Doug
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In this special Women's History Month episode, Jennifer shares valuable insights and inspiration from the stories of five remarkable women previously featured on The Will to Change podcast. The episode explores topics such as finding community and belonging in the workplace, the ongoing fight for pay equity, body inclusivity, and the importance of …
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E310: Executive Influence: Driving Inclusion through Strong C-Suite Relationships with Empower's Djuana Beamon
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In this episode, originally recorded as a community call, Jennifer sits down with Djuana Beamon, the Chief Diversity and Corporate Social Responsibility Officer at Empower. With a wealth of experience across various industries, including financial services, pharma, insurance, and healthcare, Djuana shares her journey in the diversity, equity, and i…
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E309: Reimagining Belonging: Navigating DEI Work in Turbulent Times with Author Rhodes Perry
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In this episode, Jennifer welcomes back Rhodes Perry, an award-winning social entrepreneur, sought-after speaker, podcast host, and nationally recognized LGBTQ thought leader. Jennifer and Rhodes dive deep into the current state of DEI work, exploring the challenges practitioners face in navigating pushback and misinformation, as well as the opport…
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Episode 5: Leading an Inclusive Program
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We started with one teacher, Rochelle Buniger. Episodes 2 through 4 showed that the acts of one teacher have an impact that goes far beyond the classroom. In this episode, I hope you, my listener, will see that high-quality meaningful inclusion is more than the love of one teacher and the positive outcomes of inclusion have the potential to go just…
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E308: Small Choices, Big Impact: Words as a Tool for Change with Jackye Clayton, Textio’s VP of Talent Acquisition and DEIB
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This episode was originally recorded as a Community Call and features a conversation with Jackye Clayton, Textio's VP of Talent Acquisition and DEIB. Jackye reveals how AI tools like Textio can mitigate exclusionary workplace communications, and how your most subtle word choices may inadvertently perpetuate bias. She also outlines Textio's approach…
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Episode 4: Who He Is Not How He Is
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In this episode, Archer, Aubrey, and Aaliyah, the children of Zach and Anita Hamilton, whose stories you heard in episodes 2 and 3, share their experiences growing up together. Their words, particularly those of Aubrey, reinforce the positive enduring impact of Archer's inclusion in Miss Rochelle's inclusive preschool classroom in District 51. In E…
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E307: Patience, Perspective and Progress: Advancing Inclusion in Times of Resistance with Jorge Quezada
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Jorge Quezada, Chief Inclusion Officer and VP of People & Culture at Granite Construction, joins the program for a conversation with Jennifer about their decades of experience guiding organizations on the journey toward diversity, equity and inclusion. Jorge and Jennifer discuss the pendulum swings of progress and pushback, the difference between c…
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E306: Valuing our Wisdom: Our Role as Storytellers That Shift the World
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In this special minisode, Jennifer provides invaluable insights on how leaders can effectively direct their message through impactful storytelling. She also shares perspectives on why many hesitate to share their stories, often failing to recognize the wisdom they have to offer. Discover how to shape and structure a compelling leadership story, and…
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E305: Will to Change Special Edition: Uplifting Black Voices
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In this special episode of the Will to Change, Jennifer reflects on conversations with influential black leaders and changemakers. Hear clips and insights from author and DEI expert Jessica Bantom; Lorraine Orr, COO of Boys and Girls Clubs of America; author Martinus Evans; award-winning trans advocate Dr. Elijah Nicholas, Tony DeGruy of Cisco, and…
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Episode 3: Archer As Archer
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In this powerful episode, we resume the conversation from episode 2 when I spoke with Zach and Anita about their story and experiences with Archer's transition from Ms. Rochelle's preschool classroom into kindergarten. In this episode, we delve into the emotions experienced by Archer's parents when he is genuinely included in every aspect of life. …
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Episode 2: A Foundation From the Start
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In this episode you will meet Anita and Zach Hamilton, the parents of Archer Hamilton. Archer was introduced in episode 1 by Ms. Rochelle. Anita and Zach share their story about Archer’s transition from preschool with Ms. Rochelle into a general education kindergarten classroom. We will talk along the way about the necessity for communication, the …
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E304: Turning Resistance into Progress: Transmuting Fears to Advance Inclusion with Dr. Poornima Luthra
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DEI trailblazer Dr. Poornima Luthra joins the program to discuss how underlying fears are fueling resistance to DEI efforts globally. She discusses research on the top fears around not knowing enough and saying the wrong thing, and the need to create psychologically safe environments that encourage vulnerability, intelligent failures, and growth mi…
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E303: Navigating Pushback and Progress with Randstad’s Chief Equity Officer, Audra Jenkins
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In this episode, Jennifer is joined by Audra Jenkins, Chief Equity Officer at Randstad. Audra discusses the important role supplier diversity plays in furthering inclusion, tapping into untapped talent pools such as people with disabilities and veterans, and the business imperative for organizations to create equitable and welcoming cultures. She a…
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Episode 1: Creating an Inclusive Community
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In this episode, Rochelle shares her story about Archer and his family. We will talk about her preparation, her use of home visits to support inclusion, and the priorities she places on relationships. She will also share recommendations for teachers in inclusive classrooms or considering teaching in inclusive classrooms. Image Description: The imag…
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E302; Evolving Our Impact: The Many Hats We Wear, from Coach to Consultant to Thought Leader
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In this thought-provoking episode, Jennifer explores the nuances between different professional roles like coaching, consulting, public speaking, and thought leadership. She also shares wisdom on finding one’s unique voice and platform to make a difference in the world, overcoming imposter syndrome to embrace our most powerful stories, and the resp…
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E301: Making the Invisible Visible: Insights from the "Uncovering Culture" Report with Deloitte’s Sameen Affaf and The Meltzer Center’s David Glasgow
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In this episode, Jennifer is joined by Deloitte’s Sameen Affaf and The Meltzer Center’s David Glasgow, as they discuss findings from the recent "Uncovering Culture" report. Detailing the latest data around workplace "covering" behaviors among marginalized groups, they explore surprising statistics on intersectionality, younger generations, and exec…
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E300: 2023 Year in Review: JBC Consultants Join Jennifer on the Way Forward in 2024
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This episode was originally recorded as a DEI Community Call, and features a conversation with Jennifer and JBC Consultants as they reflect on learnings and positive change from 2023 that give hope for further progress, while also confronting the roadblocks still firmly in place across society and workplaces. Touching on challenging issues around d…
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E299: The Intimate Work of Inclusion: Forging Personal Connections Through Shared Stories and Vulnerability With JBC Senior Consultant Laura Alvarez Schrag
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In this episode, Jennifer speaks with Laura Alvarez Schrag, Senior Consultant at JBC, about making personal connections to foster belonging in organizations. They discuss Laura's background, the importance of sharing personal stories and being vulnerable, generational differences in connecting, and how leaders can role model embracing learning and …
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E298: C-Suite Vulnerability: Creating Safe Spaces for Executive DEI Dialogues
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In this minisode, Jennifer offers an inside look into her approach for architecting high-impact sessions with leadership teams. From managing anxious executives to contending with vocal CEOs, Jennifer shares her tactics for establishing psychological safety while also driving towards candor and vulnerability. She spotlights common C-Suite dynamics,…
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E296: Elevating Indigenous Voices with Boys and Girls Clubs’ VP of Native Services, Carla Knapp
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Tune in as Jennifer welcomes Carla Knapp, National Vice President of Native Services at Boys & Girls Clubs of America., as Carla discusses empowering indigenous youth and professionals to thrive as their authentic selves. Carla reveals how to use storytelling to preserve rich cultural traditions, and shares her personal journey of leading with grac…
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Best of the Will to Change: Self-Care as a Strategy for Belonging: A Fireside Chat with Joel Brown and Rhodes Perry
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From the Best of the Will to Change: In this episode, originally recorded at the Belonging at Work Summit, Jennifer Brown is joined by Rhodes Perry, founder of Rhodes Perry Consulting and Joel Brown, Chief Visionary Officer of Pneumos, as they discuss the importance of self-care. Discover how to develop sustainable self-care practices and increase …
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E295: Hindsight is 2020: Adult Development as a Way to Inform 2023 with co-authors Christopher McCormick and Aman Gohal
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In this episode, Jennifer continues her conversation with co-authors Christopher McCormick and Aman Gohal about human development frameworks. Christopher and Aman reveal how most DEI conversations happen at lower action logics, creating exclusion and division. Discover the importance of meeting people where they are developmentally, structurally ch…
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E294: Language as a Tool for Inclusion: Expanding Our Linguistic Awareness with Author Jen O'Ryan
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This episode features a conversation with inclusive language expert Jen O'Ryan on the nuances of language and word choice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. Jen reveals how we can expand our linguistic awareness to lead with more humility and precision and provides concrete examples for humanizing workspaces by removing ableist language and repl…
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E293: Understanding our Evolution: Why an Adult Development Lens is Critical to Inclusivity, with co-authors Christopher McCormick and Aman Gohal
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This episode features a conversation with co-authors Christopher McCormick and Aman Gohal about using the stages of adult development as a framework for expanding DEI conversations. They discuss the action logics model which describes mindsets and behaviors at different maturity levels and reveal how leaders can apply this model to develop a greate…
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E292: Second Chance Hiring with Fifth Third Bank’s Chief Economist, Jeff Korzenik
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This episode features a conversation with economist Jeff Korzenik as he explores the overlooked talent pool of people who have interacted with the justice system. Discover the enormous scale of this community, with over 70 million Americans having some involvement with the legal system, and the compelling business case for hiring this untapped tale…
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E291: Speaking from Lived and Learned Experiences: Insights on DEI Storytelling with Carin Taylor
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This episode was originally recorded as a DEI Community Call and features a conversation with Carin Taylor, Chief Diversity Officer at Workday, about the transformative power of witnessing others' stories for advancing DEI efforts. Drawing from her extensive professional experience and personal journey, Carin shares insights on how the simple yet c…
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E290: The Legacy of Belonging: Jennifer Joins the BE the CHANGE Podcast
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This episode was originally recorded for the BE the CHANGE podcast and features a conversation between Jennifer and host Stephanie Howlett as they discuss the importance of allyship. Jennifer shares tips for navigating the journey of allyship and the importance of using our privilege on behalf of others. Discover why and how leaders need to evolve …
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E289: Activating Our Allyship Meter: A Senior Leader's Journey Towards Advancing LGBTQ Equality with Erik Day
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This episode features a conversation with Erik Day, Senior Vice President of Global Small Business at Dell Technologies. Erik discusses his journey of helping start Dell’s first LGBTQ employee resource group in the early 2000s and reflects on what it takes to drive systemic change. He stresses the importance of intersectionality, using privilege an…
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E288: Scaling Inclusive Leadership in a Doubting World: Jennifer Joins Chuck Shelton on the Courage Counts Program
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This episode was originally recorded on the Courage Counts Program and features a conversation between Jennifer Brown and Chuck Shelton as they discuss how to scale inclusive leadership when DEI is being doubted and even weaponized. Jennifer reveals how to assertively drive DEI as a business growth strategy and how to create psychological safety fo…
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E287: Leading from the "Messy Middle": An Imperfect Journey Toward Inclusion
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This episode was originally recorded for the Workforce Central podcast and features a conversation between Jennifer and host Ron Painter. Jennifer reveals how leaders can foster a sense of belonging among employees, especially in a hybrid work environment. She also shares strategies for understanding and supporting a multi-generational, neurodivers…
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E286: Staying the Course on Inclusion: DEI in a Complex Legal Landscape with Michelle Phillips
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This episode features a conversation with Michelle Phillips, Principal at the White Plains, NY, office of Jackson Lewis P.C., as Michelle discusses major legal developments that impact DEI efforts in the workplace. Discover how the Supreme Court's recent ruling limiting affirmative action in college admissions is also causing companies to pull back…
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E285: The Power of Authentic Storytelling: Building Trust, Connection, and Belonging at Work with Jennifer, Shalynne Jackson, and Jim Massey
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This episode was originally recorded as a DEI Community call, and features a conversation between Jennifer, Shalynne Jackson, Chief Inclusion and Diversity Officer at The City of Oklahoma City, and Jim Massey, Chief Sustainability Officer at Zai Lab, as they discuss the power of vulnerable and authentic storytelling. Tune in as Jennifer, Shalynne, …
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E284: Leading with Pride: Jennifer Joins Giselle Phelps on the Motivational Mondays Podcast
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This episode was originally recorded for the NSLS Motivation Monday’s podcast and features a conversation between Jennifer, host Cory Andrew Powell, and Giselle Phelps, Founder and CEO of Grand Rising Talent. The conversation was originally recorded during Pride month and focuses on leadership and representation in the LGBTQ+ community. Discover th…
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E283: The Need for Male Allies: The Journey to Better Together with Ray Arata and Joe Rafter
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This episode features a conversation with Ray Arata, Founder and CEO of the Better Man Movement, and Joe Rafter, Vice President at Capgemini about masculinity, partnership, and institutional transformation. Discover the pivotal role of support and accountability in the journal of allyship. Jennifer, Ray, and Joe also discuss the complexities of pri…
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E282: Teams Reimagined: Navigating Identity, Inclusion and Belonging in Hybrid Workspaces with Team Habits Author Charlie Gilkey
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This episode features a conversation with author Charlie Gilkey, as he discusses his new book Team Habits: How Small Actions Lead to Extraordinary Results. Charlie discusses the need to redefine the way we view teams, leadership, and inclusion in the wake of the pandemic and unprecedented challenges. He also shares insights about how remote collabo…
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E281: Shifting Our Support: Jennifer on How to Bring All Learners Forward
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In this episode, Jennifer discusses the milestone of selling 75,000 copies of her book How to Be an Inclusive Leader and outlines a strategic approach for bringing everyone along the journey of diversity, equity, and inclusion. Jennifer highlights the importance of engaging all people in an organization, including the "learners, leaders, and laggar…
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E279: Better Together: Male Leaders and Allies in Partnership for Change with Ray Arata, Founder and CEO of the Better Man Movement
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Ray Arata, Founder and CEO of the Better Man Movement, joins the program to introduce and discuss the first-ever Better Together Conference. The conference will be a series of conversations aimed at fostering learning, connection, trust, and empathy that include both male leaders and other champions, with the intent of articulating a vision for tru…
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E278: Men for Inclusion: Accelerating and Activating Male Leaders with Cisco's Tony DeGruy and Gena Pirtle
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This episode features a conversation with Tony DeGruy, Leader of Service Delivery Management at Cisco, and Gena Pirtle, Global Head of Cisco's Inclusive Community Experience. Tony discusses his journey of becoming the co-lead for Cisco's Men for Inclusion Network, which strives to accelerate, activate and develop male leaders and influencers to use…
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E277: Leading at the Edge: Jennifer Joins Dr. Liz Cavallaro and Lt Col Bree Fram on the Forged in Fire Podcast
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This episode was originally recorded for the Forged in Fire Podcast and features a conversation between Jennifer and hosts Dr. Liz Cavallaro and Lt Col Bree Fram. Jennifer discusses the benefits of having to forge your own path and the need to have challenging conversations. Discover some of the positive aspects of adversity and the importance of r…
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E276: Cultivating a Learner's Mindset: Jennifer joins Natasha Rainey on the All Inclusive Podcast
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This episode was originally recorded on the All Inclusive Podcast, and features a conversation between Jennifer and host Natasha Rainey. Jennifer reveals the importance of having a learner's mindset as a leader and the difference between empathy and compassion. She also discusses how leaders can cultivate inclusivity in their teams and organization…
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E275: Words Matter: The Power of Naming Our Identities with Author Dr. Elijah Nicholas
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Last week, Elon Musk tweeted that the words 'cis' or 'cisgender' are now considered slurs on Twitter. Please join Jennifer Brown in conversation with award-winning transgender advocate Dr. Elijah Nicholas, DBA, as they discuss what this means for the transgender community, the importance of understanding and using gender inclusive language, and why…
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E274: Brand Accountability in 2023: Budweiser, Disney, and the Social Engagement Landscape with Fabrice Houdart
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This episode features a conversation with human rights and corporate social responsibility expert Fabrice Houdart, as he shares his diversity story and discusses how companies can successfully navigate the DEI and social responsibility landscape. Discover the importance of professionalism in corporate advocacy and what organizations can do to suppo…
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E273: Intersectional Celebrations: How Berkshire Hathaway Energy is Uplifting Juneteenth and Pride Month, with Darla Zink
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This episode was originally recorded as a Community Call, and features a conversation with Berkshire Hathaway Energy CDO Darla Zink, as she outlines her journey to the CDO role, and her personal change philosophy when it comes to building inclusive organizations. Discover creative ways to gain alignment on DEI commitments with leaders and how to ba…
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E272: Fitness for All, with Slow AF Run Club Founder and Author, Martinus Evans
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Martinus Evans joins the program to discuss his new book, Slow AF Run Club: The Ultimate Guide for Anyone Who Wants to Run, and to share his journey, which includes completing 8 marathons and creating the Slow AF Run Club, which encourages runners and walkers of all ages and experience levels. Martinus reveals what to do when facing self-doubt and …
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E271: The State of Pay Equity with Salary.com’s DEIB Director, Lenna Turner
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Lenna Turner, Director of Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging at Salary.com, joins the program to discuss compensation inequity, and how it has impacted her personally and professionally. Lenna reveals the impact of salary ban laws and how the war for talent is connected to transparency, pay equity and creating an inclusive culture. Discover…
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