A father-daughter podcast where I interview my father, Robert Chau, on exactly how he survived and escaped the Khmer Rouge aka 1970's Cambodian Genocide. We will follow along his journey on how a starving boy crawling out of Cambodia become a serial American entrepreneur. After 50 years, he deserves a chance to finally share his story.
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Welcome to Esa Man, the go-to podcast for expats living abroad! I'm your host, Kat, a foreigner living in Ecuador for the past 7 years, keeping it real as a gringa trying to navigate life in Latin America. You know, living abroad is not always rainbows and butterflies so come with me as we make our way through the ups and downs and crazy in-betweens of living abroad. Every other week, you'll hear me sharing hilarious and heartwarming stories about life in Ecuador—from the quirks of daily lif ...
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Chef Nite - Chef & Restaurateur
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1:04:35In this episode of Death in Cambodia, Life in America, I sit down with Chef Nite Yun, the visionary behind the beloved Oakland restaurant Nyum Bai, author of the new cookbook My Cambodia, and one of the stars of Netflix’s Chef’s Table: Noodles. Her episode introduced millions to the richness of Khmer cuisine, but behind the camera, Chef Nite’s stor…
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Li-Da Kruger - Cofounder of Reconnecting Cambodia
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54:08In this episode of Death in Cambodia, Life in America, I speak with Li-Da Kruger, a Cambodian-born British filmmaker and adoptee, whose search for identity has shaped the course of her life. Adopted as a baby just before the Khmer Rouge came to power, Li-Da was raised in the UK with little connection to her roots. For decades, she carried the weigh…
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James Taing - Author & Director
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50:18This week on the Death in Cambodia, Life in America Podcast, I sit down with James Taing, founder of the Preah Vihear Foundation, author of Under the Naga Tail, and director of the short documentary Ghost Mountain. James shares the deeply personal story of his father, who survived the Khmer Rouge only to face a second, lesser-known atrocity: being …
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Chef Nak - Celebrity Chef & Culinary Author
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1:18:48Episode Description In the latest episode of the Death in Cambodia, Life in America Podcast, I had the honor of sitting down with Chef Ros Rotanak (better known as Chef Nak) Cambodia’s leading culinary ambassador and the author of the award-winning cookbook SAOI. From her earliest memories of cooking out of necessity to her rise as a global advocat…
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Amara Goel - Performer and Policy Analyst
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54:21In this episode of Death in Cambodia, Life in America, I sit down with Amara Goel, a Cambodian American performing artist, and policy analyst whose journey spans refugee camps, international stages, and global policy work. Amara shares her experiences growing up as a 1.5 generation immigrant and how her identity has been shaped by a life lived acro…
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Caylee So - Filmmaker
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1:04:41In this episode of Death in Cambodia, Life in America, I sit down with Caylee So, a Cambodian-American filmmaker, veteran, and co-founder of the Cambodian Town Film Festival. Born in a refugee camp after her parents fled the Khmer Rouge, Caylee shares her incredible journey from growing up in Virginia to serving in the Army National Guard and ultim…
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Loung Ung - Author of "First They Killed My Father"
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42:02With the 50th anniversary of the Khmer Rouge upon us, I’m honored to share a conversation that holds so much weight, truth, and heart. In this episode of Death in Cambodia, Life in America, I sit down with Loung Ung, Cambodian-American author, activist, and survivor. You probably know Loung from her memoir First They Killed My Father, which tells t…
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Jean-Baptiste Phou - Author of “Coming Out of My Skin”
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1:05:53French-Cambodian artist Jean-Baptiste Phou joins Death in Cambodia, Life in America Podcast for a powerful conversation about identity, creative expression, and the journey of reconnection. Born in Paris and now based in Phnom Penh, Jean-Baptiste reflects on growing up as a Cambodian immigrant in France, grappling with cultural disconnection, and u…
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4. How to Make Friends Abroad as an Adult-Real Talk on Expat Life, Loneliness, & Building Community
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23:51Welcome to ESA MAN, the podcast for expats, travelers, and anyone trying to survive (and thrive) in a new country. In Episode 4, host Kat—an American living in Ecuador—opens up about one of the biggest challenges of expat life: how to make friends abroad, especially as an adult. Whether you’ve just moved abroad or you’ve been living overseas for a …
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5. The First Time I Met My Latino In-Laws: Language fails, birthday cake face-plants & the most humbling moment abroad
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14:56Welcome back to ESA MAN, the podcast for expats, travelers, and anyone navigating the wild ride of life in a new country. In this episode, Kat takes you back to the very first time she met her Ecuadorian partner’s extended family—and let’s just say, it involved 30+ relatives, a surprise cake smash, salsa dancing, and giving a speech in Spanish when…
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3. Ecuador Is One of the Most Underrated Countries in the World & Here's Why
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18:11Ecuador is one of the most underrated countries in the world, and I'm here to tell you why! Join me as I share my personal journey of discovering the true essence of Ecuador, a place that has captured my heart despite its challenges. And it's not just about the landscapes; it's about the people, the culture, and the everyday experiences that make l…
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2. From English Teacher to Local Celebrity a.k.a. My Life in Ecuador
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29:51Have you ever wondered how a simple decision could change your entire life? That's the story of my life in Ecuador! From teaching English to becoming a local celebrity (what?!), my journey has been filled with moments of doubt, discovery, and lots of determination! Today, I'll take you through my early days of exploring dropshipping and mystery sho…
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1. How a One-Way Ticket to Ecuador Changed My Life
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30:14Welcome to the very first episode of Esa Man! I'm so excited to have you here, and I can't wait to share with you all the stories from my life in Ecuador! Do you want to know what it is like to just pack your bags and start a new life in a foreign country? Well, I did that, and Ecuador became my unexpected home! I'm going to share the wild ride tha…
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Welcome to Esa Man, the go-to podcast for expats living abroad! I'm your host, Kat, a foreigner living in Ecuador for the past 7 years, keeping it real as a gringa trying to navigate life in Latin America. You know, living abroad is not always rainbows and butterflies so come with me as we make our way through the ups and downs and crazy in-between…
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Patricia McCormick - Author of Never Fall Down
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51:01In this episode of Death in Cambodia, Life in America, we sit down with Patricia McCormick, a two-time National Book Award finalist and the acclaimed author of Never Fall Down, a powerful novel based on the true story of Arne Chorn-Pond, a boy who survived the Khmer Rouge by playing music. With a background in journalism and a passion for storytell…
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Sin Setsochhata - Singer/Songwriter
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1:00:25We’re back with Season 3 of Death in Cambodia, Life in America, and we’re still going strong with incredible interviews! This week, we’re joined by Sin Setsochhata, a rising singer-songwriter from Phnom Penh and the granddaughter of the legendary Sinn Sisamouth—Cambodia’s “Elvis” and a trailblazer of Khmer rock. Setsochhata opens up about growing u…
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Dr. Judy Lederwood - Researcher
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59:19In this episode of Death in Cambodia, Life in America, we sit down with anthropologist Dr. Judy Ledgerwood, an expert on generational trauma and Southeast Asian studies. Drawing from decades of research in Cambodia and with Cambodian refugees in the United States, Dr. Ledgerwood unpacks the profound aftermath of the Khmer Rouge regime. Together, th…
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Dr. Alex Hinton - Anthropologist
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1:21:22In this powerful episode of Death in Cambodia, Life in America, we sit down with renowned anthropologist Dr. Alexander Hinton, an expert on genocide, mass violence, and human rights, to dig into the dark history of the Cambodian genocide and the lessons it holds for the world. Dr. Hinton shares how his journey began with a visit to Cambodia in 1992…
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Chantha Nguon - Author of "Slow Noodles"
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53:00In this week’s episode, we sit down with Chantha Nguon, author of Slow Noodles, Fast City and a refugee of the Khmer Rouge. Nguon shares her powerful journey of survival, starting with her childhood in Cambodia, which abruptly changed when the Khmer Rouge took over. She recounts the hardships her family faced while fleeing to Vietnam, losing loved …
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Eric Tang - Author of Unsettled
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44:03In this week’s episode, we sit down with Eric Tang, author of Unsettled: Cambodian Refugees in the New York City Hyperghetto. As an associate professor and former community organizer, Tang shares his deeply personal research on Cambodian refugees in the U.S., shedding light on the often overlooked struggles they face. From his time working with Cam…
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Bunthoeun Real - Director of Donut Boy
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1:00:03In this episode of Death in Cambodia, Life in America, we sit down with award-winning Cambodian-American director and writer, Bunthoeun Real, to dive into his experiences growing up as a Cambodian American and his inspiring journey into filmmaking. Real shares the unique challenges of navigating cultural expectations, the importance of representati…
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Elizabeth Becker - Author of "When the War Was Over"
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57:56Elizabeth Becker, a war correspondent and author of When The War Was Over: Cambodia and the Khmer Rouge, discusses her experience in Cambodia during the Khmer Rouge regime. Becker explains how she became interested in Cambodian history and how she ended up as a journalist in Vietnam and Cambodia. Becker highlights the importance of understanding th…
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Dr. Scott Allen - Author of "Across a Bridge of Fire"
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1:05:51Dr. Scott A. Allen, an author, physician and professor, shares his experiences working in refugee camps on the Thai-Cambodian border in the 1980s in his book, Across a Bridge of Fire: An American Teen's Odyssey from the Burn Ward to the Edge of the Cambodian Killing Fields. Dr. Allen highlights the resilience and hope he witnessed in the refugees, …
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Monica Sok - Author & Poet
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1:00:26Monica Sok, author of A Nail the Evening Hangs On, discusses her upbringing in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, and her connection to her Cambodian heritage. She shares how her parents' silence about their refugee experiences and her own curiosity led her to explore her history and pursue poetry. Sok talks about her time studying abroad in Vietnam and Camb…
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Chris Parkhurst, Producer and Director of Elvis of Cambodia
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50:49Director and producer Chris Parkhurst discusses his documentary film 'Elvis of Cambodia' and his journey of exploring the music and legacy of Cambodian artist Sinn Sisamouth. The film beautifully blends the history of the Khmer Rouge with the healing power of Cambodian music. Chris shares how he fell in love with documentary filmmaking and Cambodia…
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Anne Elizabeth Moore - Author, Journalist, and Cultural Critic
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59:50Anne Elizabeth Moore, author of Cambodian Grrrl, shares her experiences in Cambodia, teaching young women about self-publishing and cultural differences. She discusses the impact of the Khmer Rouge and the Chbab Srey on women's rights and freedom of speech. The conversation covers Moore’s experience teaching self-publishing to young women in Cambod…
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Soreath Hok - A Multi-Media Journalist
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51:33Soreath Hok, a multimedia journalist, shares her journey in the media industry and her focus on reporting on Cambodian-American mental health issues. She discusses her upbringing as a 1.5 generation immigrant and her love for media from a young age. Soreath talks about her experience in college radio and how it led her to pursue a career in journal…
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Dr. Sophal Ear - Esteemed Academic and Writer
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1:19:55Dr. Sophal Ear, a Cambodian refugee, shares his journey from escaping the Khmer Rouge to becoming a successful academic and writer. He discusses his multifaceted work, including teaching, research, and consulting, and his passion for paying it forward and giving back. Dr. Ear reflects on the importance of educating the next generation about the Khm…
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Dr. Patrick Heuveline - A Sociologist and Khmer Rouge Expert
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1:06:08Welcome back to Season 3 of Death in Cambodia, Life in America! We're starting season 3 off strong with a special guest: Dr. Patrick Heuveline. Dr. Heuveline is a sociologist and expert on the long-term consequences of the Khmer Rouge regime, discusses the effects of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. He explores topics such as the baby boom that occurre…
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Nick Coffill - Author of the book "Photography in Cambodia: 1866 to Present"
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1:14:14Nicholas Coffill's huge passion for live theatre, performances, and sharing a cultures history through photography and music - lead him to create one of the first ever fully developed photography books about Cambodia today. His book "Photography in Cambodia: 1866 to the Present" is one of the most beautiful coffee table books enriched with photogra…
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Catherine Filloux - Award Winning Playwright of the Only Cambodian-U.S. Rock Opera
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59:26For the past three decades, award-winning artist, playwright, and librettist Catherine Filloux has been traveling to conflict areas creating art that addresses human rights and U.S. complicity. Her plays and operas about Cambodia include: “Eyes of the Heart” and “Photographs from S-21” and she is the co-founder of Theatre Without Borders. “Where El…
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Myra Torcheux - A Cambodian Orphan in France
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1:05:47Myra Torcheux has her masters from The London School of Economics and aspires to change policies for children's rights. Much of her passion for this career is driven by her experience growing up in France as an adoptee. I mentioned via social media that I am passionate about highlighting stories that deserve more attention, one storyline being the …
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Sochanvimean Vannavuth Ph.D - How has the Khmer Rouge Effected this Generation?
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55:40I am popping out of retirement to introduce you to someone that I absolutely HAD to interview. Sochanvimean or as I call him Vimean , is a Cambodian Ph.D Psychologist at UCSB who is passionate about how the mental health and generational trauma is cultivated through traumatic expereinces such as the Khmer Rouge. We dig into Vimean's past growing up…
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Season Finale - Farewell to Robert
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53:22Robert and I share our last recording together as we close this chapter. We finalize the season by discussing what Robert has learned over the years, how he would have done things differently, and what he hopes everyone will takeaway from this podcast. We discuss topics like revenge, forgiveness, the legacy he hopes to leave behind, lessons of life…
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A Final Message, From Me to You.
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10:22Von Dorothy Chow
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Special Guest - Angela Wu aka The Sassy Asian Therapist
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54:39Today we bring on Angela Wu LMFT aka the Sassy Asian Therapist to bring on a professional light on what generational trauma is, and how we can cope with it as second generation asian Americans. We discuss this idea of trying to "fix" our parents as children of refugees, tactics to handle generational trauma, how we can start the conversation of hea…
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Special Guest - David Edsall Law
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30:04David and Robert met when they were both young and starting their their careers. While Robert was building his long train of shops up along highway 99, he met a nice lawyer from Camarillo, CA who was willing to help Robert on reading documents and any legal situations he was in. To this day, David is just a phone call away for any of Robert's legal…
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S2 Epsiode 16: The Fall of Golden Bake
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30:11Robert discusses the lowest point in his life in America - when a family member and business partner who he trained from the ground up, stabbed him in the back and pushed him out of his own company. He talks about being depressed, angry, and turning to alcohol to release himself from the pain. Robert felt he spent his whole life working and sacrifi…
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S2 Episode 15: The Growth of Golden Bake
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27:00Robert reflects on his past and the different obstacles he faced as he ran 4 different companies at once. We dive into topics like how people viewed him, jealousy, family perceptions and more. He recalls an instance where we attends a wedding where nobody actually knew who he was and he witnessed (and even joined in!) on the gossip about this myste…
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S2 Episode 14: The Rise of Golden Bake
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26:12Robert continues to grow B&H in Northern California and ended up doing so well that he surpassed his Southern California counterpart. They had an agreement when they first decided to join together that Robert's territory was Northern California and his friend was Southern. However, the counterpart started getting jealous and crossing into Northern …
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S2 Episode 13: Crabs in a Bucket Mentality
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20:12Robert discusses the cultural downfalls of the Cambodian culture that he first realizes when he tries to grow his business. He notices that there is a lack of community and help when he comes to supporting their own Cambodian people, which we call "crabs in a bucket" mentality. Robert does his best to create this community and despite the pushback,…
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S2 Epsiode 12: The Beginning of B&H Bakery Distributors
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26:01Robert and I take it back to discuss how he went from a silent investor to running the Northern California division of B&H Bakery Distributors. Robert believes it was a great idea from the very beginning to supply his own community with the ingredients they needed to run their donut shops. After building the donut shops up along California, Robert …
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S2 Episode 11: Church's Fried Chicken and Winchell's Donuts
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29:46Robert continued on with his growth mindset and built donut shops until he hit South Lake Tahoe where he lost money due to renting the shops to owners with gambling problems. He then decided that he was going to tackle Church's Fried Chicken when he found out of an opportunity to take over their locations with the idea of potentially turning them i…
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S2 Episode 10: "If I have money, I have everything"
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26:40Robert scales up the state of California taking 6-8 months at a time building donut shops all along highway 99. Robert backpacks his way just building one shop after the next with no intention of stopping. He has become borderline obsessed with his process of building donut shops. Robert talks about never taking a day off and how the culture he was…
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Dear Fellow Survivors - A Khmer Message From Robert
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22:07Today, I released the video called Dear Fellow Survivors. This video feels like the accumulation of what the podcast represents so far: healing. My goal is and always has been to heal as many remaining survivors as possible, and this video is the kickstart. Todays release is a audio version of Robert's speech, however if you don't understand Khmer,…
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S2 Episode 9: The Gift of the American Dream
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22:34Robert continues to build donut shops throughout California. In this epsiode we talk about Robert's chase towards the American Dream and why he fought so relentlessly towards it. I ask Robert how he has the willpower to keep going, and what his mindset was like as a new refugee in America. This episode was a huge eye opener for me on how refugees l…
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I will be taking a 2 week intermission from launching episodes to refresh, plan, and manifest the future of this podcast. If you haven't seen, we were on CBS National TV a few weeks ago, and I feel nothing but gratitude for the opportunity to represent the Cambodian American community through this podcast. (still pinching myself!) Thank you to all …
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S2 Episode 8: Climbing the Donut Ladder
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23:48Robert gets back on his feet and builds his first donut shop's sales in just 6 months. Sleeping and breathing the donut shop day in and day out allowed him to pay back all his investors within the first year. Robert LOVES his newfound way to build a good life in America. He brings mama and the whole family from Portland to also work these donut sho…
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Special Guest - "On the Corners of Argyle and Glenwood'
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57:51About 20 years ago, Stuart Isett lived on the corners of Argyle and Glenwood and noticed that many of his fellow neighbors were Cambodian Refugees from the Khmer Rouge. Years later, he put together a photo book called "On the Corners of Argyle and Glenwood' that showcases the Cambodian Refugee experience here in America. He captures the Cambodian y…
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Special Guest - Bob Burton
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33:51Bob Burton was the real estate commercial agent who helped Robert find his first donut shop ever. Today we with with Bob and recall when he first met Robert and why he felt compelled to help this refugee from Cambodia. Music Written By: Acerylio ChenVon Dorothy Chow
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