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Let's thrive. Thriving Adoptees helps adoptees thrive. What does thriving mean to you? Healing? Post Traumatic Growth? Evolving? Listen in as we explore what's helped adoptees do all that... Email me at simon@thrivingadoptees.com if you'd like to have a chat about being a guest on the show. There have been 93,000 downloads of the show since launch in April 2021.
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Same China. Different stories. We are the ones who found our way in a new life, Adoptees Born in China. Chinese adoptees’ stories and the stories of those lives they have become a part of. This podcast acts as a personal journal, archive, and resource for adoptees and others. Want to share your story? Email adoptedbabiesfromchina@gmail.com @adopteesborninchinapodcast on Instagram/ Facebook. Please rate and review. Music | bensound.com
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In Adoptees Crossing Lines, I expose the lies and harm of the adoption industry and family policing system. As a Black same-race adoptee reclaiming my story, I challenge systems that profit from family separation. This podcast is truth-telling, healing, and anger intertwined. If you're ready for raw, unfiltered conversations about adoptee trauma and dismantling harmful systems, join me on this journey of reclamation.
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Adoptees in Arms

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Are you an adult adoptee who has struggled to find purpose on the other side of pain? Do you long to walk free from the bondage of shame, abandonment, and rejection? Do you desire a closer relationship with God? If so, Adoptees in Arms was created with you in mind. Join Iris Peterson Bryant, an adult adoptee, as she shares stories from her life along with spiritually uplifting interviews to encourage and empower the listeners. This monthly podcast is designed to elevate and amplify the voice ...
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How much are you enjoying life? The more deeply we can see that joy is an inside job the more we can enjoy life. Listen in as we dive into accepting missing pieces of our story, finding joy and more. Leigh Lincoln is an author whose narratives resonate deeply with the human experience. With a passion for storytelling that touches hearts and provoke…
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Kellan's Journey Through Adoption and Queer Identity In this episode of Color Shift, Kellan shares their story of being adopted from China to the UK and raised in a white family and community. They reflect on the complexities of identity, silence, and survival that shaped their early years—and the deep healing work they’ve done since. Kellan speaks…
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Carmen sent a message saying she got her CoC June 2025 in which I replied -”CoC?” In this episode, Carmen shares about her experience with getting her Certificate of Citizenship (duration 7 months) including speaking with her mom, the adoption agency, and an attorney. We talk about the N- 600 (https://www.uscis.gov/n-600) and also about how she cam…
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In this episode of Adoptees Crossing Lines, Zaira is joined by Ashley Albert—organizer, survivor, and founder of Stolen Children’s Month. Ashley shares her journey from foster care and incarceration to becoming the first parent in Washington state to legally enforce and modify an open adoption agreement. Together, they speak truth to power about th…
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Want to be in our new book for adoptive parents? Listen in as fellow adoptee and friend Jude interviews me about the book. I'm gathering wisdom from across the adoption constellation for a book on how adoptive parents can help their kids thrive. The ebook will be available widely and free. Any profits from the printed book will go towards supportin…
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Unlimited potential. A tantalising idea isn't it? One that seems a long way from our experience. So what brings it closer? What takes it further away. Listen in as we explore realising that unlimited potential, getting out of our own way and more. Meghan Anderson has been the director of Connecting Hearts (now Adoption Life), since 2018 and has wor…
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What does thriving mean to you? Everyone has a different definition. One that feels authentic to them. Giving ourselves grace, feeling safe and being vulnerable help us see our true self and being true to who we truly are. Listen to a lovely, deep dive into authenticity. Jenn Hook, MA is Founder and Executive Director of Replanted Ministry Jenn rec…
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Do you feel you belong? Do the ones you love feel they belong? Listen in as we explore belonging, grace and the power of unconditional love. Profound and poignant. A conversation we both hope you love. Amiee earned both her Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees in Social Work from the University of Tennessee. She also has a Master’s in Conflict Managemen…
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"We act how we feel" what a truthbomb! But how do you feel? How do you feel about yourself? Listen in as we dive deep into acceptance, gratitude so we relish ourselves. Kelly has extensive experience as a Family Support Coach with Children’s Home Society and has also served as the co-leader of Bellis' innovative Tuesday morning peer-support group f…
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We all have trauma. Infertility traumatises and miscarriage takes that to a different level of pain. For Anna Maria miscarriage prompted depression. Listen in as she shares her learnings from bouncing back from that, raising her daughters and finding peace. Anna Maria DiDio, MSW is a writer, speaker and educator who has devoted her time and talents…
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Who do you prioritise? Whose needs come first? Putting ourself first is seen as selfish and therefore, bad. Listen in as Abby and I discover constructive selfishness. Abby also shares her reflect, release and re-invent process that's empowered her as a transracial adoptee. Dr. Abigail Hasberry splits residence in Texas and Maryland. Her work focuse…
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Thriving starts with us. If we want our kids to thrive, we need to be thriving. And that all starts with self awareness. Listen in as Annette shares insights into self awareness and how it helps us tackle the tough stuff and thrive. Annette Williams, PhD, M.Ed., LPC, RPT, CAS is a Professional Member of the Association of Play Therapy and is a Nati…
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Hannah was born in Kansas City to a white birth mother and Black birth father, and adopted into a white family in Pennsylvania. Raised in a community where no one looked like her, Hannah’s early years were marked by isolation, a lack of racial mirrors, and a longing to understand where she came from. In this episode, she shares what it was like to …
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How fast are you living your life? Today's frantic pace of life means opportunities to learn, grow and connect with the people we love the most pass us by. Listen in as David shares his learnings on slowing down, becoming a better parent and much more. Rev. David Melber is the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) for Baptist Children’s Homes of North Caro…
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Trauma can be so painful that we back off it. We numb it. We suppress it. And so it lingers. What if we did the opposite? We embrace it. When do so, miracles and magic can happen. Listen in as Stacey and I dive deep into pain and cures. Darren and Stacey Gagnon are passionate advocates for children in the areas of special needs, adoption, and foste…
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Note: Explicit language used a couple of times and not beeped We visit this recording with writer Lianna from winter 2024 and sharing now in summer 2025. Lianna lives outside of the US and adopted from Hunan province. We talk about the Nanchang project and how Chinese adoptee alliance like many other orgs have shifted from parents to adoptee led. A…
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If we are ok with not feeling ok, we are always ok. One of my favourite sayings. Listen in as Adrian shares his learnings on navigating life with more ease. We go deep because that's where all the treasure is. You're going to love this. Check out Adrian's film https://seedandspark.com/fund/finding-home-a-journey-to-biological-roots https://www.adri…
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In this episode of Adoptees Crossing Lines, Zaira sits down with her editor and friend J Way to reflect on their experience attending the Black Mothers March in Washington, D.C. From the powerful teach in and the emotional impact of firsthand stories to the joyful moments of community and connection, they unpack what it means to organize, to protes…
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In this episode, Nathan sits down with Saskia, a Chilean adoptee raised in a predominantly white town in New Jersey after being adopted at just two and a half months old. As the only girl and only adoptee in a family with three biological brothers, Saskia grew up surrounded by the narrative that adoption was something to be grateful for. But as she…
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Nicky Hammond is a Korean Australian adoptee, coach, and breathworker who helps intercountry adoptees reconnect with identity and community. In this episode, she shares her journey from growing up in a white Australian family to rediscovering her heritage, living in Seoul, and creating healing spaces for fellow adoptees. Links and info for Nicky: N…
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Decisions. Decisions. Decisions. They become a lot easier with a North Star to follow. Podcaster Niall has interviewed an incredible array of talent in the worlds of healing, consciousness and psychology including my favourite author Rupert Spira. Listen in as we riff on intention, course correction and more. Here's the link to the interview with J…
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Do you want change for the better? There's a part of us that always thinks it is right. And it feels good to be right. But it gets in the way of the change we want. Of being better. Of connecting better. Listen in as Kristin shares profound lessons on humility, insight and change. Listen to Kristin's previous interview here: https://thriving-adopte…
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In this episode of Adoptees Crossing Lines, Zaira sits down with Kat Shahinian-Buffa to explore the layers of secrecy, grief, and reclamation embedded in kinship adoption. From being adopted the day she was born to uncovering that her sister is also her cousin through a DNA test, Kat walks us through her journey of survival, family deception, and i…
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Who doesn't want more ease? More peace? How? That's the question. Listen in as Jean shares her insights on how insights help us to more ease. With ourselves. With others. As she says so wisely "Compassion is free". That compassion oils our relationships. Jean Kelly Widner is the author of The Adoption Paradox: Putting Adoption into Perspective, a p…
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Do you want to take your advocacy to the next level? When we know more, we achieve more. When we focus more, we achieve more. Listen as adoptive mother and advocate Marcy shares learnings about learnings, focus, experimentation and much more. Here's the link to Marcy's previous interview: https://thriving-adoptees.simplecast.com/episodes/reasons-fo…
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Do you feel comfortable in your own skin? Being adopted can feel distinctly uncomfortable. Whether that's due to others or ourselves. Listen in as Rabail shares what she learned coming through tricky teenage years and out of the other side. Find out more about Rabail here: https://www.adoptionmatters.org/podcasts/exploring-transracial-adoption/ htt…
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In this preview episode, host Nathan Choi introduces Color Shift: Transracial Adoptees — a podcast created by and for transracial adoptees, and for anyone who wants to understand us better. Nathan shares what you can expect from future episodes, what the term “color shift” means, and how the show is designed to feel like three friends catching up o…
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How do we bounce back? Keep going when all seems lost? Listen in as adoptive mother Besty and I explore answers to these big questions and more... Betsy Armstrong grew up on a farm in Minnesota, but Chicago captured her country-mouse heart thirty-plus years ago, so she stayed. Betsy is a writer, mom, athlete, and philanthropist who wants to change …
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"Other people's opinions of us are none of our business." Winston Churchill. I love that quote. For me it's about doing what feels authentic to me. Being me. Doing me. I could never have imagined that the starting point for our conversation - stigma - was going to empower my advocacy. Make me bolder. Listen in and see where this episode takes you. …
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Do feel different? Less than? Do you deserve to thrive? Doug always felt different. But he didn't know he was adopted until he was 12. Listen as we dive into insights, sobriety and more in this profound and empowering episode. Check out Doug's book - There Are More Like Me: Search, Reunion, and Synchronicity in Adoption here: https://www.amazon.co.…
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Another episode with a difference courtesy of two ladies with huge hearts. Empathy for others in the adoption constellation is foundational to thriving and communication. Listen in as birth mother Laura and adoptee Hannah explore the path to empathy. Hannah Andrews was born in Chicago and was adopted as an infant during the Baby Scoop Era. She was …
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In this powerful episode, attorney and pro-Black adoptee Aretha Frazier shares her story of being adopted by her aunt in a kinship placement that was far from simple. From navigating family loyalty and control to confronting abuse and the myth of gratitude, Aretha opens up about what it really meant to grow up in a household where blood ties didn’t…
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The Promise is that Scotland's children and young people will grow up loved, safe and respected. This episode dives into how Fraser, his team and partners are delivering on that. We explore resilience, expectations and more. Fraser has been Chief Executive of The Promise Scotland since September 2022. Prior to that, he spent 16 years working for Au…
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I spoke with Laur over the winter break from school and now releasing this episode a little over a month from the Chinese Adoptee Collective first ever conference taking place June 27-29. Laur has lived in various spots throughout the US and works within therapy. Sometimes it can be so difficult to vocalize all the feelings but Laur did so and with…
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At times our trauma threatens to overwhelm us. To overcome us. But how would it be to see that we are bigger than our trauma? Not just to see that. To feel it. To let go of blame. To be free. Listen in as Cher and I dive deep into understanding, forgiveness and more. Cher became a passionate advocate for children and decided to help children break …
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In this episode of Adoptees Crossing Lines, Zaira is joined by her editor, cinephile, and dear friend J Way. Together, they dive into how adoption narratives are portrayed in film and television, from tropes like the “grateful orphan” to more realistic depictions of systemic harm. J Way shares their experience as a transracial adoptee, the cultural…
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Are you feeling out of balance? I know I do sometimes. And often because our perspective is to narrow. Listen in as Danny shares a broader, and deeper, perspective on thriving. Powerful and thought provoking. If we want our kids to grow, we need to grow. So how do we do that? Danny shares a wealth of insights into how we can grow based on a lifetim…
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We are both Marylanders who went to CLI in Guilin at different times but were able to meet in NYC twice. Couple years back, I spoke with Jenna over hot chocolate about adoption and then she kindly came to my cozy room in Queens where we recorded this episode. During 2 months of Chinese language study in Guilin, Jenna also went to the city where she…
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There's no such thing as bad kid. There's no such thing as a bad adult. Although that doesn't stop us feeling bad right? Listen in as Matthew and I dive under our beliefs and trauma to see the inherent goodness at our core. Matthew McCall started at The Home in 1998 as a Child Care Worker. Matthew has held virtually every client serving role at The…
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In this solo episode of Adoptees Crossing Lines, Zaira dives deep into the power and necessity of mutual aid. Drawing from personal reflection, historical examples like the Black Panther Party and the Young Lords, and global efforts from Sudan to Florida, this episode highlights how mutual aid has always been about survival. Zaira explores how mutu…
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Is trauma getting in the way on your journey to home? To peace? Is your ego pulling you off the path? Adoptive mom Chasity was adopted by her step-father whilst she was in pre-school. Listen in as we explore the journey home, obstacles and more... Connect with Chasity at https://www.linkedin.com/in/chasity-galyon-2b4994250/ https://alovingoptionado…
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So many of us struggle to see our worth. To feel valid. Listen as we explore safety, connection and purpose before going way deeper into worth. You're going to want to listen right until the end of this when Linda drops a bombshell about her that explains so much of what we discuss. Wow! A truly belief busting episode with breathtaking clarity. Lin…
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Do you want more peace and contentment? Who doesn't? Listen in as Janelle and I dive deep in to being content with who we are, fulfilment and more. Adoptive mom Janelle serves as Program Coordinator at Adoption Network Cleveland and in this position, she is responsible for coordinating programming for Families and Youth. This includes program impro…
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How do we see our wholeness? How do we feel whole? Listen in as we dive deep into life's biggest questions. https://lifesong.org https://www.facebook.com/lifesongfororphans https://twitter.com/lifesongorphans https://www.instagram.com/lifesongfororphans/ Guests and the host are not (unless mentioned) licensed pscyho-therapists and speak from their …
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What do we need to succeed? What tools do we have already? What tools can we get? Join us for a deep dive with a fellow metaphor lover Amanda into empowerment and thriving. Connect with Amanda here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-angell/ https://www.facebook.com/FosterandAdopt https://mofosteradopt.com/ Guests and the host are not (unless menti…
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The past is a place of reference not a place of residence. So what drives us forward? What keeps our momentum? Listen is as foster kid David shares his insights on growing forward. How many ex foster kids are professors? How many have dedicated their lives to improving the lives of children from hard places. Dr David Cross is uniquely placed to sup…
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What's beyond your dreams? Tapping into the dreams beyond our dreams can take us to extraordinary places. Listen in as inspirational leader and adoptive dad Chris shares what he's learned about impact, dreams and much more. Connect with Chris here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophertonniges/ https://www.onelfs.org/ https://www.facebook.com/One…
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Adoptee Storytelling & Film Advocacy In this episode of Adoptees Crossing Lines, Zaira sits down with Alexandra, a British and American domestic transracial adoptee who grew up in her birth country of Hong Kong. Alexandra is the festival director of the Adoptee Film Fest, a global in-person and online film festival amplifying adoptee-centered films…
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What if we were content with being content? OK with feeling OK? Searching for happiness prolongs the search. Listen in as Brett and I dive into the big sea of contentment. The one between the high tide of happiness and the low tide of a low mood. Here's a link to Brett's previous interview https://thriving-adoptees.simplecast.com/episodes/how-adopt…
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What does growth mean to you? How do we grow? Listen in as we dive into this BIG subject. Insights and practical guidance aplenty. Cynthia K. Jensen is a Certified Social Worker in the State of Wisconsin. Cindy graduated Cum Laude from Milton College in 1978 with a Bachelor of Arts degree. From 1990 to 2009 she was employed by another Wisconsin chi…
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