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S01E32 - Daniel E. Saros on Digital Socialism and the Abolition of Capital (Part 2)

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Part 2 of the in depth interview with Daniel E Saros.
While many are unsatisfied with capitalism and critique it in highly sophisticated ways, there are few concrete proposals for a socialist mode of production that could replace the capitalist one. Daniel E. Saros has developed such a proposal in his book "Information Technology and Socialist Construction – The End of Capital and the Transition to Socialism" which we discuss at length over the course of two episodes.

Shownotes

Information on and works by Daniel E. Saros

Saros, E. Daniel. 2014. Information Technology and Socialist Construction. The End of Capital and the Transition to Socialism. Oxfordshire: Routledge:

https://www.routledge.com/Information-Technology-and-Socialist-Construction-The-End-of-Capital-and/Saros/p/book/9780415742924

Saros, E. Daniel. 2019. "Information Technology and the Socialist Mode of Production: A Simulation of the Point Allocation System". Preprint. Annual Meeting of American Economic Association 2020 (zuletzt aufgerufen Dezember 2020):

https://www.aeaweb.org/conference/2020/preliminary/paper/YhNBnTeh

Selected works:

https://works.bepress.com/daniel-saros/

On the historical socialist calculation debate

The Austrians (selection)

Mises, v. Ludwig. 1990. Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth. Auburn: Ludwig von Mises Institute. (full book):

https://cdn.mises.org/Economic%20Calculation%20in%20the%20Socialist%20Commonwealth_Vol_2_3.pdf

Hayek, F. A. 2011. “The Use of Knowledge in Society”. Mises Daily Articles:

https://mises.org/library/use-knowledge-society

Hayek, F. A. 2005. "Economics and Knowledge". Mises Daily Articles:

https://mises.org/library/economics-and-knowledge

Hayek, F. A. 1963. Collectivist Economic Planning. London: Routledge:

https://cdn.mises.org/Collectivist%20Economic%20Planning_2.pdf

Wiki on the Austrian School of Economics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_School

The Socialists (selection):

Lange, O. 1936. “On the Economic Theory of Socialism: Part One”. The Review of Economic Studies, 4(1): 53–71:

https://www.jstor.org/preview-page/10.2307/2967660?seq=1

Neurath O. 2005. “Economic Plan and Calculation in Kind”. In Otto Neurath Economic Writings Selections 1904–1945. Vienna Circle Collection, vol 23. Wiesbaden: Springer:

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/1-4020-2274-3_14

Barone, E. 2012. “THE MINISTRY OF PRODUCTION IN THE COLLECTIVIST STATE”. Giornale Degli Economisti e Annali Di Economia, 71(Anno 125)(2/3): 75–112:

http://www.jstor.org/stable/43828055

D. Dickinson. 1933. “Price Formation in a Socialist Community”. The Economic Journal, Volume 43, Issue 170, 1 June 1933: 237–250:

https://academic.oup.com/ej/article-abstract/43/170/237/5267408?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Marx, Karl. 1887. "Capital Volume I". marxists.org:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Capital-Volume-I.pdf

Marx. Karl. 1878. "Capital Volume II". marxists.org:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1885-c2/index.htm

Free online courses by David Harvey "Reading Marx's Capital":

http://davidharvey.org/reading-capital/

Other historical voices (selection):

Schumpeter, Joseph A. Capitalism. 1976. Socialism and Democracy. London: Routledge. Full book:

https://eet.pixel-online.org/files/etranslation/original/Schumpeter,%20Capitalism,%20Socialism%20and%20Democracy.pdf

Socialist Calculation Debate 2.0

Saros, Daniel E. 2014. Information Technology and Socialist Construction – The End of Capital and the Transition to Socialism. London: Routledge:

https://www.routledge.com/Information-Technology-and-Socialist-Construction-The-End-of-Capital-and/Saros/p/book/9780415742924

Cockshott, Paul and Allin Cottrell. 2000. Towards a new socialism. Nottingham: Russell Press. Full book:

http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/new_socialism.pdf

Phillips, Leigh and Michal Rozworski. 2019. The People’s Republic of Walmart. London: Verso:

https://www.versobooks.com/books/2822-the-people-s-republic-of-walmart

Morozov, Evgeny. 2019. "Digital Socialism?". New Left Review vol. 116/117:

https://newleftreview.org/issues/II116/articles/evgeny-morozov-digital-socialism

Spufford, Francis. 2010. Red Plenty. London: Faber and Faber. (novel):

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6481280-red-plenty

Dyer-Witheford, Nick. 2013. "Red Plenty Platforms". Culture Machine vol. 14:

https://culturemachine.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/511-1153-1-PB.pdf

Fuchs, Christina (Hg.). 2020. Communicative Socialism/Digital Socialism. tripleC: Communication, Capitalism & Critique 18 (1): 1-285:

https://www.triple-c.at/index.php/tripleC/article/view/1149

Phillips, Leigh and Michal Rozworski. 2019. "Yes, a Planned Economy Can Actually Work". Jacobin Magazine:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/03/economic-planning-walmart-democracy-socialism

Malloy, Michael. 2019. "Economic Planning and Degrowth: How Socialism Survives the 21st Century". New Socialist:

https://newsocialist.org.uk/economic-planning-and-degrowth/

additional shownotes

Wiki Ayn Rand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand

Curtis, Adam. 2011. All watched over by machines of loving grace. London: BBC:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x60xjdl

Wiki on "zero-knowledge proofs":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof

Willoughby, John. 2017. “Book Review: Information Technology and Socialist Construction: The End of Capital and the Transition to Socialism”. In Review of Radical Political Economics vol. 50(2): 427- 443:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0486613416665833

Redecker, v. Eva. "Refiguring Revolution. A new Theory of Radical Change". Essay. Academia.edu (zuletzt abgerufen Dezember 2021):

https://www.academia.edu/39903778/Refiguring_Revolution._A_Critical_Theory_of_Social_Transformation_introduction_and_content_table_transl._by_Lucy_Duggan_

Hahnel, Robin und Michael Albert. 1991. The Political Economy of Participatory Economics. Princeton: Princeton University Press:

https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691003849/the-political-economy-of-participatory-economics

If you like Future Histories, you can support the show on Patreon:

https://www.patreon.com/join/FutureHistories?

Write me via office@futurehistories.today and join the discussion on Twitter (#FutureHistories):

https://twitter.com/FutureHpodcast

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www.futurehistories.today

Episode Keywords:

#FutureHistories, #Podcast, #DanielSaros, #JanGroos, #Interview, #Planwirtschaft, #Society, #Democracy, #Communism, #Planarchy, #SocialistCalculationDebate, #Hayek, #Marx, #KarlMarx, #PlanningDebate, #DigitalSocialism, #Socialism, #PlannedEconomy, #AssociationalSocialism, #DemocraticPlanning, #Revolution, #HeterodoxEconomics, #Marxism, #Parecon, #RobinHahnel, #MichaelAlbert, #FutureHistoriesInternational,

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Part 2 of the in depth interview with Daniel E Saros.
While many are unsatisfied with capitalism and critique it in highly sophisticated ways, there are few concrete proposals for a socialist mode of production that could replace the capitalist one. Daniel E. Saros has developed such a proposal in his book "Information Technology and Socialist Construction – The End of Capital and the Transition to Socialism" which we discuss at length over the course of two episodes.

Shownotes

Information on and works by Daniel E. Saros

Saros, E. Daniel. 2014. Information Technology and Socialist Construction. The End of Capital and the Transition to Socialism. Oxfordshire: Routledge:

https://www.routledge.com/Information-Technology-and-Socialist-Construction-The-End-of-Capital-and/Saros/p/book/9780415742924

Saros, E. Daniel. 2019. "Information Technology and the Socialist Mode of Production: A Simulation of the Point Allocation System". Preprint. Annual Meeting of American Economic Association 2020 (zuletzt aufgerufen Dezember 2020):

https://www.aeaweb.org/conference/2020/preliminary/paper/YhNBnTeh

Selected works:

https://works.bepress.com/daniel-saros/

On the historical socialist calculation debate

The Austrians (selection)

Mises, v. Ludwig. 1990. Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth. Auburn: Ludwig von Mises Institute. (full book):

https://cdn.mises.org/Economic%20Calculation%20in%20the%20Socialist%20Commonwealth_Vol_2_3.pdf

Hayek, F. A. 2011. “The Use of Knowledge in Society”. Mises Daily Articles:

https://mises.org/library/use-knowledge-society

Hayek, F. A. 2005. "Economics and Knowledge". Mises Daily Articles:

https://mises.org/library/economics-and-knowledge

Hayek, F. A. 1963. Collectivist Economic Planning. London: Routledge:

https://cdn.mises.org/Collectivist%20Economic%20Planning_2.pdf

Wiki on the Austrian School of Economics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_School

The Socialists (selection):

Lange, O. 1936. “On the Economic Theory of Socialism: Part One”. The Review of Economic Studies, 4(1): 53–71:

https://www.jstor.org/preview-page/10.2307/2967660?seq=1

Neurath O. 2005. “Economic Plan and Calculation in Kind”. In Otto Neurath Economic Writings Selections 1904–1945. Vienna Circle Collection, vol 23. Wiesbaden: Springer:

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/1-4020-2274-3_14

Barone, E. 2012. “THE MINISTRY OF PRODUCTION IN THE COLLECTIVIST STATE”. Giornale Degli Economisti e Annali Di Economia, 71(Anno 125)(2/3): 75–112:

http://www.jstor.org/stable/43828055

D. Dickinson. 1933. “Price Formation in a Socialist Community”. The Economic Journal, Volume 43, Issue 170, 1 June 1933: 237–250:

https://academic.oup.com/ej/article-abstract/43/170/237/5267408?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Marx, Karl. 1887. "Capital Volume I". marxists.org:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Capital-Volume-I.pdf

Marx. Karl. 1878. "Capital Volume II". marxists.org:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1885-c2/index.htm

Free online courses by David Harvey "Reading Marx's Capital":

http://davidharvey.org/reading-capital/

Other historical voices (selection):

Schumpeter, Joseph A. Capitalism. 1976. Socialism and Democracy. London: Routledge. Full book:

https://eet.pixel-online.org/files/etranslation/original/Schumpeter,%20Capitalism,%20Socialism%20and%20Democracy.pdf

Socialist Calculation Debate 2.0

Saros, Daniel E. 2014. Information Technology and Socialist Construction – The End of Capital and the Transition to Socialism. London: Routledge:

https://www.routledge.com/Information-Technology-and-Socialist-Construction-The-End-of-Capital-and/Saros/p/book/9780415742924

Cockshott, Paul and Allin Cottrell. 2000. Towards a new socialism. Nottingham: Russell Press. Full book:

http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/new_socialism.pdf

Phillips, Leigh and Michal Rozworski. 2019. The People’s Republic of Walmart. London: Verso:

https://www.versobooks.com/books/2822-the-people-s-republic-of-walmart

Morozov, Evgeny. 2019. "Digital Socialism?". New Left Review vol. 116/117:

https://newleftreview.org/issues/II116/articles/evgeny-morozov-digital-socialism

Spufford, Francis. 2010. Red Plenty. London: Faber and Faber. (novel):

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6481280-red-plenty

Dyer-Witheford, Nick. 2013. "Red Plenty Platforms". Culture Machine vol. 14:

https://culturemachine.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/511-1153-1-PB.pdf

Fuchs, Christina (Hg.). 2020. Communicative Socialism/Digital Socialism. tripleC: Communication, Capitalism & Critique 18 (1): 1-285:

https://www.triple-c.at/index.php/tripleC/article/view/1149

Phillips, Leigh and Michal Rozworski. 2019. "Yes, a Planned Economy Can Actually Work". Jacobin Magazine:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/03/economic-planning-walmart-democracy-socialism

Malloy, Michael. 2019. "Economic Planning and Degrowth: How Socialism Survives the 21st Century". New Socialist:

https://newsocialist.org.uk/economic-planning-and-degrowth/

additional shownotes

Wiki Ayn Rand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand

Curtis, Adam. 2011. All watched over by machines of loving grace. London: BBC:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x60xjdl

Wiki on "zero-knowledge proofs":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof

Willoughby, John. 2017. “Book Review: Information Technology and Socialist Construction: The End of Capital and the Transition to Socialism”. In Review of Radical Political Economics vol. 50(2): 427- 443:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0486613416665833

Redecker, v. Eva. "Refiguring Revolution. A new Theory of Radical Change". Essay. Academia.edu (zuletzt abgerufen Dezember 2021):

https://www.academia.edu/39903778/Refiguring_Revolution._A_Critical_Theory_of_Social_Transformation_introduction_and_content_table_transl._by_Lucy_Duggan_

Hahnel, Robin und Michael Albert. 1991. The Political Economy of Participatory Economics. Princeton: Princeton University Press:

https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691003849/the-political-economy-of-participatory-economics

If you like Future Histories, you can support the show on Patreon:

https://www.patreon.com/join/FutureHistories?

Write me via office@futurehistories.today and join the discussion on Twitter (#FutureHistories):

https://twitter.com/FutureHpodcast

or on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/FutureHistories/

www.futurehistories.today

Episode Keywords:

#FutureHistories, #Podcast, #DanielSaros, #JanGroos, #Interview, #Planwirtschaft, #Society, #Democracy, #Communism, #Planarchy, #SocialistCalculationDebate, #Hayek, #Marx, #KarlMarx, #PlanningDebate, #DigitalSocialism, #Socialism, #PlannedEconomy, #AssociationalSocialism, #DemocraticPlanning, #Revolution, #HeterodoxEconomics, #Marxism, #Parecon, #RobinHahnel, #MichaelAlbert, #FutureHistoriesInternational,

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