Co-hosts (and ex-pastors) Jason Stellman and Christian Kingery discuss politics, religion, and culture over drinks.
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Podcast #503: Objections
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In this episode we wrap up our post-election thoughts and discuss the fallout of our daring and unprecedented suggestion that we listen to our opponents with an open mind (gasp!). We address some of our listeners’ concerns and pushback, offering some pushback of our own, ultimately concluding that charitable discourse begins with letting those acro…
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Podcast #502: Political Tribalism and Demonization
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Podcast #501: Post-Election Analysis and Soul-Searching
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Drunk Ex-Pastors returns! In this episode we give a few teasers about what the show will look like going forward (greater focus on concrete segments, more frequent but shorter episodes, and so on). We then engage in some post-election analysis as well as personal introspection concerning how best to navigate the next four years (and step one will i…
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Podcast #500: The One Where We Talk Politics
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In this 500th episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we hear from a listener who suggests that the two reasons someone might leave Christianity are either doctrinal or interpersonal. We then spend the bulk of the show discussing our political differences, including third-party voting, idealism vs. pragmatism, the value of campaign promises, and whether a Harr…
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Podcast #499: Comedy, Evil, and AI
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In this episode of DXP we address Jerry Seinfeld’s recent retraction of his earlier insistence that wokeness makes comedy impossible. We hear from a listener asking about Neil deGrasse Tyson’s formulation of the problem of evil, and then talk about Noah Yuval Harari’s new book, Nexus, and what it has to say about the dangers of AI. Biebers involve …
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Podcast #498: The Substance, Free Speech, and Trump on the Lam
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In this episode of DXP we hear an update about Christian’s hip surgery, which leads into the discussion about the potentially endless spiral of doctor’s appointments that people often get sucked into. We discuss a few new films and TV shows, including The Substance, which Jason will never see. We discuss the current limits on free speech as well as…
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Podcast #497: Christian Nationalism - An Interview with Katherine Stewart
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we sit down once again with author and journalist Katherine Stewart (with whom we also spoke just before the 2020 election). Katherine is an expert on the issue of Christian Nationalism, and our conversation touched upon topics such as the relationship of religion to power, Christian Nationalism vs. Islamic Extre…
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Podcast #496: Sci-Fi, the Human Brain, and Panspermia
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We begin this episode of DXP hearing from Christian about his (alleged) epidural, which leads us down a rabbit trail about science fiction and the mystery of the human brain. We briefly discuss just how young the United States is (three people old to be exact). We discuss the theory of Panspermia (which is not as exciting as it sounds), and then la…
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Podcast #495: Mafiosos, Cowboys, and Literal Petfood
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We begin this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors with a recap of Christian’s recent vacay to Asia, from which we springboard to whether it’s okay to eat our pets. We discuss the new Max documentary, Wise Guy, about David Chase and The Sopranos, which leads into one of Jason’s theories involving Goodfellas and The Godfather. “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, wh…
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Podcast #494: Twenty-One Pilots and Pastor Jack
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we talk a bit about corporate sponsorship of literally everything, and then spend a fair bit of time dissecting the music and mythology of the band Twenty One Pilots, springboarding into issues surrounding power and the resistance to it. We listen to Pastor Jack being off (again), and then share biebers involving…
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Podcast #493: Divorce, Tampon Tim, and the Real Life Network
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We begin this episode with a brief rant about Amazon Alexa and how she’s a useless horrible person who deserves to die. We then hear from a caller insisting that Jason should watch that new Godzilla movie. We take a call from another listener who is going through a divorce, so we share some of the ups and downs from our own lives. Another caller se…
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Podcast #492: Aging Comics, Brats, and Politics
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We begin this episode with a discussion of the new Beverly Hills Cop movie, springboarding to the issue of whether comics lose their edge as they get older. We revisit Brats, the recent documentary about Hollywood’s “Brat Pack,” and then hear from a TikTokker about just how monumental the Trump assassination would have been had it succeeded. We dis…
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Podcast #491: Nostalgia, Names & Faces, and the Lust for Power
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Episode #491 starts with a discussion of the new show Dark Matter, and how it may just be a retelling of an old classic. We discuss the connection between music and nostalgia, and then debate the results of a new study that suggests that people’s faces grow into their names over time. “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, demonstrating just how much evangel…
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Podcast #490: Withdrawal, Pandering, and a Martyr Complex
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We kick things off by wondering aloud if a new approach to stand-up comedy is needed, and then discuss FX’s hit show, The Bear (which we both just finished). We talk about Biden’s recent withdrawal from the presidential race, and then turn our attention to Trump’s remarks about how much he loves Christians (despite claiming not to be one). We tease…
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Podcast #489: Crooks, Biden, and Pastor Jack
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we continue our discussion about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, as well as the reactions on the left and the right and what we know about the shooter so far. We share our theories about what would happen if/when Biden drops out of the race, and then “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns. Biebers involve eyesi…
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Podcast #488: Fainting, Worshiping, and Killing Trump
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We begin this episode with some banter about one of our favorite bands, and then hear about Christian’s latest health scare. We recount visiting Calvary Chapel together for the first time in decades, and then turn our attention to the Donald Trump assassination attempt, discussing what this might mean for his campaign moving forward. We then weigh …
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Podcast #487: Some Like It Hot
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This episode of drunk ex-pastors was recorded on location on Palm Spring’s hottest day on record (a comfy 124 degrees). We discuss a couple reaction videos, one by a classical composer who’s never heard Paranoid Android, and another by some hip-hop head who has never listened to Stairway to Heaven. We talk about Jason’s recent stand-up set, and the…
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Podcast #486: Fireworks, Pastors, and the Presidential Debate
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We begin this episode with sharing some tech woes, as well as another horrifying poop-tale from Christian. We discuss the issue of Fourth of July fireworks and pets/vets, and then hear about the recent pastors conference that Jason snuck into. We talk about the presidential debate and its possible implications, and then share biebers involving pron…
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Podcast #485: Suicidal Ideation & Political Prosecutions
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We begin this episode by talking about the best and worst ways to kill ourselves, and then discuss the convictions of Hunter Biden and Donald Trump, as well as the precedent such political targeting is likely to set. We discuss stand-up comedy and hear about a listeners’ favorite’s first ever open mic set went. “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, and bieb…
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Podcast #484: Quality of Life, Standup Comedy, and Bears
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In this episode of DXP we briefly touch upon one of Elon Musk’s arguments that we’re living in a simulation, and then discuss the balance between age and quality of life. We hear a standup-comedy update, and then dive into the whole Man vs. Bear nonsense. “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, and biebers involve Wordpress and Spotify.…
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Podcast #483: Kids, Pride, and Protests
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we talk a bit about Jason’s recent visits from his kids, and then banter about the movies and TV we’ve been watching. We discuss Trump’s recent felony convictions, as well as the recall effort against CA’s governor Gavin Newsom. We touch on some of the student protest news before “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, and …
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Podcast #482: Northern Lights, Race, and Culture
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In this episode of DXP we ponder aloud whether or not the Northern Lights are a mere Instagram filter placed upon reality. We talk briefly about the film Megalopolis, and then tackle the age-old issue of white people adopting black people (which leads to a discussion of race and culture more broadly). We end with “Pastor Jack’s Off” and a bieber in…
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Podcast #481: Comedy, Teslas, and Ethical Non-Monogamy
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We kick off this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors with an update about Jason’s budding stand-up career, and then puzzle over why everyone hates Teslas so much. We revisit the topic of ethical non-monogamy and hear a caller’s views on it, which turns into a discussion of relationships more broadly. “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, and biebers involve the roa…
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Podcast #480: Gun Laws and Ethical Non-Monogamy
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In this episode of DXP we discuss the recent verdict regarding the Crumbleys, who were held legally liable for their son’s mass shooting. We talk a bit about comedy, and then hear from a listener about his experience with “ethical non-monogamy.” “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, where we learn how much God loves white Boomers who can afford to live in s…
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Podcast #479: God-like: A 500-Year History of Artificial Intelligence, with Kester Brewin
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we sit down with Kester Brewin and chat about his latest book, God-like: A 500-Year History of Artificial Intelligence in Myths, Machines, Monsters. We discuss the nature of AI, why it should be considered theologically, and what (if anything) we can do to maintain some control over it. We debrief at the end befo…
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Podcast #478: Comedy, Life Experiences, and Iran
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we get an update as to one of the things Jason has been doing to pass the time. We then discuss the idea that life is to be measured not in days or years but in experiences. “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, and it turns out some stuff happening in the Middle East is relevant to biblical prophecy. Who knew?…
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Podcast #477: Eclipses, Shatner, and Israel
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In this episode of DXP we disclose how to experience a solar eclipse every single day. We marvel at how old William Shatner is, and then “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns (this time he is wrong about Israel, again). Biebers involve streaming platforms and TV seasons.Von Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors, Jack Hibbs
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Podcast #476: Broken Frames, The Matrix, and Mariupol
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In this techfail-riddled episode of DXP we discuss contacts vs. glasses, as well as what to do if the eyecare place breaks your frames. We highlight the 25th anniversary of The Matrix, and then talk about the documentary 20 Days in Mariupol. “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, and biebers involve Skip Intro buttons and TikTok.…
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Podcast #475: Taylor & Trolling
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We start this episode of DXP by discussing the annoying traits of old guys. We share some of our vast knowledge of Taylor Swift, and then discuss radio host Phil Hendrie (and trolling in general). We hear from a caller about country music, “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns (briefly), and we share biebers involving auto insurance and victimhood.…
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Podcast #474: TikTok & Trump
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We kick off this episode of DXP with a revisit of one of our favorite films of all time, and then pivot to a discussion of the recent so-called TikTok ban and the issue of government censorship more broadly. We laugh at Trump’s legal woes (especially how difficult he finds it not to defame people), and then learn about a heretofore unknown Bible pa…
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Podcast #473: AI, Misogyny, and Prayers to Congress
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We kick off this episode with a discussion of the improvement made in the area of AI videos, and then discuss a book on AI that was sent to us for a possible interview with the author in the future. We address some alleged misogyny in the HBO program, The Deuce, and then revisit Jack Hibbs’s heartfelt (ahem) prayer to Congress. Biebers involve subt…
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Podcast #472: Hee-Haw Music, the Rapture, and Performative Prayer
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We begin this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors with our usual banter and a couple stories about Jason’s parents, and then we revisit the thorny issue of country music and seek to understand why so many people like music that’s just objectively bad. We join Mike Seaver and question the Rapture, and then make fun of Pastor Jack Hibbs and his latest clout-…
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Podcast #471: Country Music and “He Gets Us”
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In this episode of DXP we briefly discuss the film “Contact” and its ramifications for the relationship of science to faith. We then talk about whether or not the music industry is shifting towards Country (and whether it’s legit for non-Country artists to jump on the bandwagon). We break down the “He Gets Us” ads from the Super Bowl, and then shar…
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Podcast #470: Languishing, Sc-fi, and Taylor Swift
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We begin this episode with more tales of old age. We discuss the condition known as “languishing,” according to which a person is not clinically depressed but still feels like shit anyway. We discuss what are the greatest sci-fi films of all time, and then weigh in on the issue of Taylor Swift’s alleged political clout. Biebers involve tater tots a…
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Podcast #469: Trump, Barbie, and Virtual Crime
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We begin this episode with some banter about Jason’s parents, and then hear from a caller wondering how Donald Trump could be this close to power, again. We discuss the supposed “snub” of the Barbie movie by the Academy, addressing the outrage of those who felt the film deserved more recognition. We talk about the first ever "virtual rape” case, an…
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Podcast #468: Millennials, Space Exploration, and Prehistoric Jetsons
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We begin this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors with a voice mail from a caller insisting that Millennials are, in fact, interesting. We discuss the Navajo Nation’s demand that moon exploration is sacrilege and branch out from there to discuss space travel more broadly. We hear from another caller about advanced prehistoric civilizations, and then share …
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Podcast #467: Cannibalism, Fathers, and Pop Music
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we briefly discuss the new Netflix film, Society of the Snow, which leads into a discussion about cannibalism. We hear from long-time listener Leonard Angelo about the fact that we might be a lot more like our fathers than we realize, and then speak at length about pop music in general and the most recognizable s…
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Podcast #466: Humanity, Antiquity, and Butt Stuff
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In this episode of DXP we hear from a caller challenging our assertion that conservative Christianity demands young-earth creationism, from which we springboard into a discussion of the nature of antiquity in general and humanity in particular. We then take another call about the alleged prostate G-spot, which leads to all kinds of gross butt stuff…
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Podcast #465: Normal People, Drugs, and the Origin of Everything
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We begin this episode of DXP discussing the Hulu drama, Normal People (which we have both come to love, despite the Irishness of it all). We talk about Indiana’s new drug law, and then we hear from a caller about Young-Earth Creationism. “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns as we learn life-changing lessons about Damascus and cowardice. Biebers involve raci…
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Podcast #464: Body Scans, Trans Jokes, and Young-Earth Creationism
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we hear all the dirty secrets revealed by Christian’s recent Dexa Scan (we also learn a bit about bloody pee). We share thoughts about being secretly recorded while screaming at people (auto-attendants and old drivers, respectively). We hear from a listener asking about Anthony Jeselnik’s trans jokes, and then di…
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Podcast #463: Napoleon, Elon, and Simulation Theory
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we talk briefly about Ridley Scott's new film, Napoleon, puzzling over the accents used (or lack thereof). We check in with Elon Musk and weigh in on his latest scheme to attract advertisers to X, and then discuss whether we live in a digital simulation and what that even means. Biebers involve parallel parking a…
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Podcast #462: Antisemitism and Sexist Comedy
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In this episode of DXP we discuss the issue of sleep, and afterward we turn our attention to the growing number of accusations of antisemitism in the entertainment industry (as in, is there a difference between criticizing a country's actions and disliking a certain race of people?). We address the recent controversy over Matt Rife's new comedy spe…
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Podcast #461: Octogenarians and America’s Public Schools
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we hear another amusing story about the way 80 year-olds (attempt to) interact, and then we talk at some length about the state of America’s public schools, wondering whether the violence problem is too systemic and ingrained to do much about at this point. “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, and alas! he is wrong again…
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Podcast #460: Noah’s Ark, Jared Kushner, and Polite Society
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we discuss the (rather dubious) discovery of Noah’s Ark atop Mount Ararat and what, if anything, that would mean for people’s position regarding the Old Testament. We discover that Jared Kushner isn’t nearly as much of a moron as we assumed he was, and then delve into the issue of how to live as polite members of…
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Podcast #459: Speakeasies, Nepo Babies, and Dead Friends
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we discuss the status of the Daylight Preservation Act and the joy of colonoscopies, and then hear about some of Nashville’s coolest speakeasies. We discover to our surprise that Jared Kushner isn’t a babbling idiot, and then lament the death of Matthew Perry so soon after that of his brother, Luke Perry. Biebers…
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Podcast #458: The Gnostic Gospels, Documentaries, and Nude Brits
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We spend most of the first half of this episode of DXP discussing the so-called Gnostic Gospels and what their discovery 80 years ago means for organized religion and Protestantism in particular. We share our latest thoughts on one-another’s documentary recommendations (Welcome to Wrexham and the Hundred-Foot Wave), and then hear about a new show a…
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Podcast #457: Geography, Documentaries, and the Timing of Wealth
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We begin this episode of DXP with a little quiz focusing on what exactly is North America. We then discuss the documentaries Beckham and 100 Foot Wave, and then hear more about the Paris and Italy legs of Christian’s recent trip. We debate whether it would be better to live rich and die poor or the opposite, then get mad about Pastor Jack Hibbs aga…
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Podcast #456: Portugal, EVs, and Hips
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We begin this episode of DXP with a report on Portugal, a country God did his best to destroy in 1755. We discuss the pros and cons of EV charging, and also hear about the not-so-great results of Christian’s MRI on his hips. Biebers involve almonds and tourists.Von Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #455: Divorce Attorneys, New Tech, and Simulation Theory
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This episode of DXP begins with a heads-up about Christian’s upcoming trip, after which we talk a bit about the resolution of the writers’ strike. We discuss divorce attorney James Sexton’s appearance on Lex Fridman’s podcast, and then talk about Coldplay’s and U2’s use of cutting-edge tech in their live shows. We mock Gen Z’s delusional belief tha…
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Podcast #454: Russell Brand, Minimalism, and Pastor Jack’s Off
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we spend the bulk of our time discussing (the limited information we have about) the recent allegations against Russell Brand. We also delve into the backlash he has faced, and whether it is fair to rush to judgment given the lack of specifics or charges. We also discuss the topic of minimalism, and “Pastor Jack’…
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